For an overall script, absolutely. For a scene of a few seconds?
Bob Orci Answers Questions From Posters at TrekMovie.com
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For an overall script, absolutely. For a scene of a few seconds?
Depends on how egregious it is. Spock's reaction disappointed me because I thought it undercut the character as he was being established (assuming one is unfamiliar with him, previously), but it was not awful.
The strawman argument is the most common logical fallacy, after all.
We do not really need one. The term is only used by the self-righteous to flame anyone with whom they disagree.
It is YOUR OPINION that "It's sloppy writing, plain and simple."Somehow, I do not think the movie going public wants to see the 6 HOUR movie it would take to have every fanboy question answered onscreen.
Personally, I am thankful we got a great 2 HOUR ride which is making enough money for more Trek from Paramount.
I nominate the canonization of Bob Orci to sainthood for putting up with all the fanboys' questions.
Strawman argument, I never said the movie should be six hours nor should every little nitpick being addressed. The fate of the entire Vulcan species is not a minor nitpick or a fanboy grief, it's a serious part of the plot and should be addressed in as complete a manner as time allows. It's sloppy writing, plain and simple.
It is MY OPINION that it is a fanboy complaint, plain and simple.
No, you changed my statement from being reasonable and based on observation to something rather indefensible.
Straw Man:
Person A has position X.
Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
Person B attacks position Y.
Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.
Sorry, that is what you just did, opinions or not.
I really don't get what's so hard to grasp concerning the Vulcans. They've been in space for a long time, long enough to spawn their own off-shoot civilisation (the Romulans). So they probably have founded a number of colonies. But the question is: how Vulcan are those colonies?
A significant part of Vulcan culture and tradition seems to hinge on locations (e.g. Mount Seleya, the Forge, the katric ark), so naturally it would change for Vulcans living off-world permanently.
Just look at our own world. Australia, New Zealand and Canada were all Britsh colonies once, but if Britain was destroyed tomorrow with only 10.000 survivors, wouldn't the Brits be right to think of themselves as endangered?
A significant part of Vulcan culture and tradition seems to hinge on locations (e.g. Mount Seleya, the Forge, the katric ark), so naturally it would change for Vulcans living off-world permanently.
Just look at our own world. Australia, New Zealand and Canada were all Britsh colonies once, but if Britain was destroyed tomorrow with only 10.000 survivors, wouldn't the Brits be right to think of themselves as endangered?
People were really that bothered by the movie not spending more time on the Vulcans? 
People were really that bothered by the movie not spending more time on the Vulcans?
yeah, actually. The Vulcans were my favorite species in Star Trek and the book "The Philosophy of Star Trek: The Wrath of Kant" makes them seem even better.
People were really that bothered by the movie not spending more time on the Vulcans?
yeah, actually. The Vulcans were my favorite species in Star Trek and the book "The Philosophy of Star Trek: The Wrath of Kant" makes them seem even better.
Well, it's a good thing enough of them survived to repopulate, then.
They better get their pon farr on.
here are the vulcan questions that were answered..
he dosnt say it but seeing the results of tasha yar going back in time
and how badly that turned out could have made prime spock cautious..
might save vulcan and lose three other worlds.
the whole thing even though no more questions will be answered is still at
trek movie com
he dosnt say it but seeing the results of tasha yar going back in time
and how badly that turned out could have made prime spock cautious..
might save vulcan and lose three other worlds.
the whole thing even though no more questions will be answered is still at
trek movie com
Re: Boborci seemingly settles Vulcan debate
Awesome, i was wondering about that myself. Cool of Orci to do this in my opinion
Awesome, i was wondering about that myself. Cool of Orci to do this in my opinion
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actually i do it because it is more comfortable for me.
short fingers that sometimes feel unhappy.
not really trying to emulate ee cummings or archy and mehitabel.
i think they are planning over at trek movie to collect all of orci's posts and break them down according to topic.
but with vulcan being a big discussion topic here i thought people would appreciate them.
the bad part was some just wouldnt let go of the time travel parallel stuff even though it had been addressed.
It is a cruel irony that Vulcan is destroyed by a time traveler with a vicious weapon given how the High Command reacted to the Xindi attack and Archer's claims of visitors from the future. I thought it was an interesting parallel.
to me the most ironic vulcan was destroyed by an descendant of vulcans who refused to see the danger of unbridled barbaric passions and refused to follow the path of surak.
i am really interested to know how romulans reacted .
it could cause a major reflection and shift in their society.
i am really interested to know how romulans reacted .
it could cause a major reflection and shift in their society.
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You know, in TNZ, people like Dennis are far outnumbered by people with a more linear approach to the new Star Trek movie. Even though I do like the movie, you can rest assured he doesn't represent most people there. That is the place for real discussion about the new Trek movie.
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Uhm, yeah. How do I enter that forum?
