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News Bill and Ted Face the Music Officially Announced
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I wonder if Missy will be brought back. Another in long line of kinky incest light comedy themes in movies. It would be nice to see some of the time travelers as well but I don't know if the actors are still alive. Abraham Lincoln would be cool to see again and So-crates.
Jason
Jason
It's almost like 25 years of aging, learning and growth has changed them while wearing down their energy and stamina.... Like it does to every other fucking human being on the planer!
Missy is back, the actor who played the Grim Reaper is back. I don't know if they're using the original actors for the Princesses, and their children have been changed to girls (pissing off the usual "Men-insts" on the Internet.) George Carlin's daughter is in it and so is Carlin himself in archival footage. Not sure if "Station" or the "Good Robot Uses" are back.
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My thought was that since Missy dumped Bill's dad for Ted's dad in Bogus Journey, I figured that in Face the Music, Ted's dad should dump Missy for Bill's dad.
Didn't Bogus Journey imply that she would eventually leave Ted's dad for Bill himself?
Imply, one of the princesses said it to tease Ted, one of those.
I forgot the babies were originally boys until reading this thread. The change works for me. If they were kept boys, then in this movie they'd either be like younger versions of Bill & Ted (which would make them redundant), normal guys (we already have Ted's brother for that), or they'd be the total opposites of Bill & Ted (which is probably where they didn't want to go).
I'm glad to see Death is back!
I'm glad to see Death is back!
I don't know about the USA, but outside of that Alex Winters isn't really well known. Reeves has become HUGE, and is known for some very specific characters. Meaning, it might be hard picturing him like Ted again.
The question is will they make sure if they do go back in time to fix the historical inaccuracies of the first movie. For example when we see them in 15th century England they show the iron maiden torture device but that wasn't invented until the 18th century.
Jason
Jason
Were they? That was implicit from calling them "Little Bill" and "Little Ted," but I don't think it was ever overtly stated in dialogue, rather than just presumed.
Maybe not out-right stated but, come on, a lot can be inferred from the names of the babies. When they're introduced as "Little Bill" and "Little Ted" your thoughts aren't "Well, obviously those are nicknames given to Billie Logan and Tess Preston!" (Or whatever the names of the daughters are.) So it's a retcon which as stated above probably makes the most sense as it reduces the "sausage fest" of the movie and a "Little Bill" and "Little Ted" would just be redundant. Further it's pissing off the "Men-nists" which: LOVE!
How the babies were dressed could also infer a lot, but don't recall that. I just finished re-watching "Excellent Adventure" and am getting ready to re-watch "Bogus Journey."
I kind of wish they'd kept the naming convention with this sequel and called it "Triumphant Travel" or something.
One thing I'm curious or concerned about is that it looks like they're going away from the closed-loop time travel logic given to us by the series (more so the first movie) with them visiting "themselves" in prison. The movies seemed to show a closed circuit time travel logic that no matter what everything is going to work out the way its supposed to even if there's this "Chicken the Egg/What Happens First" aspect to it with the future needing to ensure the past happens the way it's supposed to.
This closed circuit is shown very nicely in the first movie with Ted's father missing his keys from the very beginning and Bill and Ted meeting "themselves" at the Circle-K before they even left. The beauty of this is that all of their shenanigans doesn't disrupt time because this has always happened! Even the villain in the Second movie is likely their equivalent of a "Flat Earther" in his attempts to try and stop Bill and Ted because by time travel logic he can't stop them and can only do more to help them even if for all of this to happen the way it's supposed to Rufus has to step-in and make sure it does. (By being the Battle of the Bands producer and letting Wyld Stalyans in.)
So I wonder what the movie is going to do to keep this Time Travel logic but also to see these alternate versions of B&T.
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Heh. I just started Bogus Journey ant it opens in 2691 at the B&T University which was filmed at that water treatment facility that was in so many Star Trek TNG-era episodes as either an alien world or some facility at Starfleet.
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Yes, obviously that was the original intent at the time, but as long as it wasn't explicit in the actual film, it's not a contradiction to change it later, merely a clarification.
That seems too generic, like just another episode rather than a definitive climax/revival. Face the Music fits the premise very well. (Bogus Journey was originally going to be called Bill & Ted Go to Hell, but the studio or marketers or whoever didn't want a cuss word in the title.)
Oddly, I can totally see Bill and Ted naming their infant daughters after each other, since that's just how their brains work. I mean sure, the assumption that they're both boys was a fair one, but as retcons go, it's pretty inconsequential and getting a female Bill and Ted out of the bargain just seems more interesting..and possibly giving the IP at least a chance to continue without the original actors.
Also, didn't Missy end up with the baddie from Bogus Journey who's name I can't be bothered to look up? Mind you that was decades ago; by now I'm sure she's worked her way through several more spouses.
Also, didn't Missy end up with the baddie from Bogus Journey who's name I can't be bothered to look up? Mind you that was decades ago; by now I'm sure she's worked her way through several more spouses.
That's The Japanese Garden at the Donald C. Tillman Water Reclamation Plant. It's been used in tons of other stuff over the years, including Bio-Dome, Alias, Austin Powers, and Twins.
Where? I didn't see him.
I just checked Wikipedia and they are in it, but they've been recast again. Joanna, Bill's wife is being played by Jayma Mays from Glee and Heroes, and Elizabeth, Ted's wife, is being played by Erin Hays from Children's Hospital. The original Missy is coming back, but they have also recast Ted's brother.
Oh, OK. I thought maybe you were excited because you saw him in the trailer.
Boom! Studios used that as a title for one of their Bill & Ted comics.
I just finished watching "Bogus Journey" and yeah in the end-credits magazine/newspaper headlines it says Missy was set to marry De Nomolos, but I'm guessing everything suggested by those newspapers have been "retconned" out of the story since the premise of this movie seems to suggest that after the Battle of the Bands performance not a whole lot more happened. Certainly not world tours, ending conflict in the Middle East, crops up and ending smog with air guitar.
Bogus Journey is just an... awkward watch. For me it's not quite as good as the original. props I suppose for not just doing another time-travel adventure and copying from the first movie but there's just elements in this one that don't work. Mostly, for me, some of the humor bits. Though the afterlife sequences are well done and Grim Reaper is a fun character.