That's an interesting concept. My only contention is how much the Borg Queen pursues Voyager and Seven. It becomes almost irrational in some places.
Biggest problem with "Voyager" is that they didn't really take any chances.
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The Borg queen was innocent. Sure, she had a few marks on her rap sheet after that whole "assimilation of Earth" venture, but she changed her ways.
Can you imagine the job stress she has to deal with? And what does Janeway do? First, she tries to take a transwarp coil WITHOUT paying for it. Later she encourags insurrection, civil war, and anarchy among the collective, fracturing them forever. And finally, when BQ was minding her own business inside HER OWN nebula, she spots Voyager, gets nervous, and politely asks them to leave her alone. Janeway then trespasses into BQ's nebula to steal passage through one of her conduits. And this time there are two Janeways. One to sneak through the wormhole and blow it up, the other to infect the Borg with a plague, annihilating them.
Add to this the multiple stolen drones, and there can only be one conclusion. Starfleet sent Janeway to the Delta Quadrant to conduct a campaign of byzantine warfare against the Borg. She didn't have to be asked, she was the first to volunteer.
Can you imagine the job stress she has to deal with? And what does Janeway do? First, she tries to take a transwarp coil WITHOUT paying for it. Later she encourags insurrection, civil war, and anarchy among the collective, fracturing them forever. And finally, when BQ was minding her own business inside HER OWN nebula, she spots Voyager, gets nervous, and politely asks them to leave her alone. Janeway then trespasses into BQ's nebula to steal passage through one of her conduits. And this time there are two Janeways. One to sneak through the wormhole and blow it up, the other to infect the Borg with a plague, annihilating them.
Add to this the multiple stolen drones, and there can only be one conclusion. Starfleet sent Janeway to the Delta Quadrant to conduct a campaign of byzantine warfare against the Borg. She didn't have to be asked, she was the first to volunteer.
#borgdidnothingwrong?
You could argue from that POV legitimately.
Sure. One could perhaps pass it off as an instance of the 'it's a small quadrant after all' syndrome that many Trek episode suffer from -- not just Voyager.
On the other hand -- there have been theories that 7 is not your average 'run of the mill' drone. I mean, think about it. Janeway asks for a single representative to negotiate with instead of the entire collective. From the perspective of the Borg, this contact is going to be crucial to avoid losing the war against species 8472. Whom do you choose? Just any average drone, or a drone you would trust with an important "diplomatic" (ahem, can't use the word without irony in connection to 7) mission?
Her full name, Seven of Nine, Tertiary Adjunct of Unimatrix 01, might also indicate that she is fairly high up in the internal hierarchy and used to being close to the Queen (I don't really buy there being only one queen and all other drones being exactly equal, despite what the Borg profess themselves- it has always been that way in dictatorships that promised equality). In that case, the Queen having a particular interest in her wouldn't be that far-fetched.
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#longlivethequeen #itsaboutethicsinassimilation
Ugh. I can't argue with what you've said, but I prefer to not think about it. It already strains credibility that the Voyager would find an assimilated human, the ship she was on with her parents, and that she happened to be chummy with the Borg Queen.
I guess that goes to the bigger problem that the Delta Quadrant is portrayed as being no bigger than an average 7/11.
This was explained. The Queen set this all up.
Odd I got the impression that the DQ was the largest of the 4 quadrants as they never seemed to quite reach the BQ
In terms of spatial size, perhaps. But it never feels all that big. They run into a wormhole that leads to the Romulan Empire, a 20th Century pick up truck, Amelia Earhart, Chakotay's ancestor alien spirit people, TNG's Ferengi, The SS Raven, Annika Hansen, the Friendship One probe, Klingons, the USS Equinox, the Mars mission spacecraft, and so on and so forth.
^Or the fact that they are still pestered by the Kazon after 2 years. Either the Kazon are spread out over a huge territory, or Voyager hasn't covered all that much distance in the first 2 years of their voyage.
The Kazon WERE spread out over a large are and have many different sects. Also the first season is short. So it does make sense that they still appear in the 2nd season
S1 of VOY wasn't that short at 20 episodes. (at least in the UK as originally released.)
To the extent of my knowledge, last time we saw them was in Basics part 2, which would be the very beginning of the 3rd season. So after 2 years, they still aren't out of Kazon reach (at least, when equating a viewer year with a year in-universe) . How long did it take to cross Federation space ?
It would take about 1.25 years at TNG speads and about 8 years at VOY speeds to traverse Federation space (8000ly FC)
In the US season 1 was 16 episodes
Season 1 was a half season. It premiered in January, 1995.
DS9 also did this, in January, 1993.
Anyways, There's a site that tracks Voyager's journey based on on screen references. They don't travel very far in the first year. I'll try to find it.
DS9 also did this, in January, 1993.
Anyways, There's a site that tracks Voyager's journey based on on screen references. They don't travel very far in the first year. I'll try to find it.
I'm sure there are dozens of factors that come into play when measuring speed in space, like the route they go, what's in the way, how far out of the way they have to go for different things, avoid organ harvesters, avoiding gangs, time for heroics, time for repairs, time for upgrades, time for time travel...
That was a hard one to accept, but it was still fun. Voyager had too many coincidences, like running into characters from the AQ like the Klingon ship, the Ferengi, etc.. I mean, you have this forgiveness threshold that reaches a certain point, then you can't suspend disbelief anymore, but Voyager didn't quite reach that point, but it did affect how I saw the show.
I also noticed that one. They also still had contact with the Talaxians, which kind of suggests they were still in the same territory they started out in at the beginning. Seemed like kind of a hiccup. Like they had to forget these elements in favor of the story, but viewers are bound to start wondering why after a year or so of traveling they are still in near kazon/Talaxian space.
