What Q reference?
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What Q reference?
yeah the studio isn’t going to take that kind of chance that the market might be in their favor. No if we haven’t got a sequel by now it’s not going to happen.
I'm still optimistic. You might be right and that would be disappointing as Kelvin Trek is my favorite Trek beside TOS. Such a squandered opportunity.
But, at the same time, I see that they have scripts or treatments available to them, with Viacom owning both perhaps there will be interest in spending the money originally contracted to Pine and Quinto. And Star Trek is very popular right now, meaning they might be more willing to spend money.
Keeping in mind that Star Trek V was almost the last Trek film. So, I believe that a lot of things are possible.
I would actually look forward to a trek with no crew we have other seen before and placed sometime in the 25th century. I’m getting tired of them going back to the original series well of characters.
There is nothing about the 25th century that appeals to me. They would have be quite inventive at that point to interest me. Even DISCO Season 3 is pushing and the only draw is Burnham and Saru and Tilly at this point. TOS is a deep well and I don't mind them dipping in it again and again.
When Bones is talking about what horrors they might encounter on further exploration. He snaps his fingers when he says something about all powerful beings that could wipe them out *like that* (ok its just a vague reference)
Yeah that's a bit of a stretch, especially as they never encountered him.
well i think it was just a loose nod from the writers (only picked up on it from vaguely remembering it in imdb trivia)
I mean Trelane and Charlie X fit that too.
they didnt snap their fingers to do stuff
Fair point, but ugh to Q. Bring back Apollo and the whole pantheon before Q.
Maybe he was implying they'd encounter aliens that would turn them into small green cubes and crumble them.
It's my favorite of the three. STB was a shakeup. It starts rough but improves and a second viewing makes that rough start seem a lot less rough. Another ship destruction is largely pointless, but the movie almost seems to know that and puts time and energy into far better things to move the movie along with, using the destruction as a quick plot point instead of sopping it up with contrived maudlin sappiness because they knew the audience would balk. Could there have been another way? Perhaps. Was it adequate to expedite the plot development with, combined with the fact that the timing of the ship being destroyed so early on was new in of itself? I'm leaning to "yes" right now as its destruction does set the groundwork for a much bigger use of the threat, which works. Characterizations are also much improved and finally feel real. The baddie is very nicely done, a first for 21st century Trek. The climax didn't involve Earth, which is nice in a movie about Star Trek. Good grief, this is one of very few sci-fi movies that uses contemporary pop music and in a genuinely interesting way. That said, sci-fi is best not putting in pop fluff but in this movie they put thought into it (unlike most shows when they feel the need to be "hip", which often ends up looking more daft than anything else.)
2009 skated on nostalgia and doesn't hold up.
STID is nostalgia on a cocktail of steroids and crack, and needlessly so because the film had enough with the mystery guy and the double crosses and terrorism subplots atop some more refined characterizations of the regulars to hold its own already... there was no need to be forcing in Khan and a gaggle of un-clever callbacks -- and those alone would dampen interest in a third film, especially given how poorly NuKhan was used (despite an altered origin that in of itself is actually halfway decent and respectable. But none of that was needed, JohnHarriman Harrison as his own character didn't need to be a cardboard cutout stick in the name of "Khan 2.0." Him being so actually diluted the movie's potential. "KHAAAAAAAAN!" and magic blood, indeed. Ugh...) STID could have been so much better and the elements were there. But it doubled up on nostalgiawank instead because that's what made the 2009 outing work. (Like STIV and V all over again except now it's nostalgiawank and not sitcom-level comedy. Sitcom pilot-levels, rather. ) STID easily could have been better whereas 2009 was just riding on that charming 50 year old TV show, now filmed with lens flares inside an Apple store.
And it's no sodding wonder Simon Pegg threw a wobbly, complete with swears - there's more genuine effort put into BEY than the previous two combined. A lot more. And STID had more fans balking just for that alone.
2009 skated on nostalgia and doesn't hold up.
STID is nostalgia on a cocktail of steroids and crack, and needlessly so because the film had enough with the mystery guy and the double crosses and terrorism subplots atop some more refined characterizations of the regulars to hold its own already... there was no need to be forcing in Khan and a gaggle of un-clever callbacks -- and those alone would dampen interest in a third film, especially given how poorly NuKhan was used (despite an altered origin that in of itself is actually halfway decent and respectable. But none of that was needed, John
And it's no sodding wonder Simon Pegg threw a wobbly, complete with swears - there's more genuine effort put into BEY than the previous two combined. A lot more. And STID had more fans balking just for that alone.
How is it pointless? Them being stuck and having no ship is kinda the crux to the story.
I feel they should have dragged it up and repaired it. However impractical.
I liked Beyond but I felt that Idris Elba's decision to have Krall speak less was a mistake. Because weirdly, I actually would be very interested in what this guy has to say. He's one of the rare Star Trek villains I believe would benefit from having a face to face with Kirk and discussion.
I admit, I suspect the result would just be, "This Federation is gross! Look at at all the aliens."
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