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It used to be just the milestone anniversaries that were a thing (10, 20, 25, 30 etc) but ever since social media literally every year is cause for celebration ..anyway just looking through some of the comments in the various FB/Twitter threads and its pretty mixed, alot of positive/reminiscent of TOS but theres the odd 'worst since V' jab and also blaming STID and the lack of promotion for underperforming
https://www.facebook.com/StarTrek/posts/3920106964672446?__xts__[0]=68.
https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1285920231727214597
https://twitter.com/TrekMovie/status/1286056706901004298
 
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I'm struggling to comprehend the 4years .. not only how quickly its past ..but just how long ago 2016 seems now (no Infinity saga, no Snyder cut saga, no Last Jedi saga, no Disco, no Picard - not even rumoured, no Tarantino Trek rumours, no DJT, no covid!).. 4 years is like a generation of time (in which we burn).. and yet that was how long it was between ST09 and ID.. so no wonder JJ Trek kind of fizzed out early (maybe they took note of the Dark Knight Rises & Skyfalls 4y gaps and thought it'd be fine...but those weren’t the follow up movies)
 
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A good upgrade from the horrible writing of Star Trek Into Darkness, but the film did miss JJ Abrams style of high stakes.

Still pissed Suicide Squad beat out the film for best make up at the Oscars.

I think the movie deserved a sequel.
 
I'm in the camp who thinks STB was the weakest of the three films. I always have conflicted feelings while watching it. I want to like it because it's Star Trek and my favorite cast whose characters I love from the first two films, but it just felt like any heart and soul was ripped out. I remember the first time I saw it, I came out of the theater and couldn't make up mind mind on how I felt about it, then saw it a second time and decided that no, it just really wasn't a good story/villain and didn't live up to the what they were saying the story was before it came out. There were a few gold moments in there that I enjoyed, but the rest, not so much.

Does seem like forever ago, I was really hoping by now we'd have another film with this cast. Still haven't given up hope on that, hope springs eternal and all that! lol
 
Interesting time to look back on it. What does almost 5 years bring in retrospect?

What I've seen is that there are a large number of people who like it, that the respect for it has increased, but there is also a loud minority that actually say it's boring. I think these reactions I see tend to be fringe fans or maybe some of the non-Trekkies who dipped into the newer films.

For myself, it's my favorite Trek film, with a slight edge over the 2009 film, and a new 4k copy of the movie (the third time I've paid for it) has only made me feel stronger about it.

For ViacomCBS, it shows there were still plenty of fans buying tickets (more than any of the pre-Kelvin movies except 1), and the movie made a passable enough amount of profit to keep the tentpole going. They've always included ST4 in their movie plan announcements and margin calls.

OK dammit, we need to see that 1701-A in action!

RAMA
 
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I thought that STB was a fantastically entertaining movie, which captured TOS and Star Trek quite well. Man, I think I'm up for a rewatch this weekend.
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I've been on record stating the 3 Kelvin movies were JJ's true calling, and that fever dream of producing Star Wars was just a nightmare. The Kelvin films outclass any SW film since 1980, in entertainment value, character, dynamicism, commentary and color!
 
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I've been on record stating the 3 Kelvin movies were JJ's true calling, and that fever dream of producing Star Wars was just a nightmare. The Kelvin films outclass any SW film since 1980, in entertainment value, character, dynamicism, commentary and color!
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I find myself agreeing with you on that. JJ's Star Trek movies had a big Star Trek vibe to them for, but were also still very much his movies. His Star Wars movies, even though I enjoyed them quite a lot, where very much him trying to replicate what was done before.
 
RAMA said:
I've been on record stating the 3 Kelvin movies were JJ's true calling, and that fever dream of producing Star Wars was just a nightmare. The Kelvin films outclass any SW film since 1980, in entertainment value, character, dynamicism, commentary and color!
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As much as I enjoy the ST I have to agree. If only Abrams had been willing to be in charge of the Trek franchise.
 
I didn't like the movie, I thought it was borrowing genres and visual styles a bit and I couldn't get pass another useless destruction of the Enterprise. I really adored the opening sequences of the movie where Kirk finally voices his Captain's log as the sfx team visualize a very brief but beautiful beauty pass of the Enterprise. It's a goosebumps moment which I truly wish have had throughout the entire movie. Once I saw the Interstellar inspired warp travel I thought the movie fell from there. Star Trek has a rich identity and should be a default setting when a director loses track of what a Star Trek movie should be. Does the crew have to be maroon on a generic planet; could there be more to the planet then it seemed; it would've been nice if the crew delved into a mystery of that planet.

Karl Urban finally had the opportunity to give his McCoy some dimension, the first two movies he's aping DeForest Kelly too much where he was making a caricature of the late actor. This time he handle his character well, a nice and pleasant addition to a movie which didn't have much soul at all, it was his elements in the movie where I was looking forward to another sequel so producers can explore this version of McCoy and maybe develop plot with his character heavily involved.
 
Only things I didn't like was the jayla fight, which seemed to be filmed and choreographed in a really dull and uninteresting way, and had very little stakes, and the subsequent motorcycle scene which was just silly and out of place in a trek movie. I didn't much care for the beastie boys scene either but I can see what they were going for - I would have preferred a proper space battle to tie it up.

The rest of the film I thought was excellent though and I enjoy it just as much as the first two, both of which have the same level of flaws to me.
 
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I didn't like the movie, I thought it was borrowing genres and visual styles a bit and I couldn't get pass another useless destruction of the Enterprise. I really adored the opening sequences of the movie where Kirk finally voices his Captain's log as the sfx team visualize a very brief but beautiful beauty pass of the Enterprise. It's a goosebumps moment which I truly wish have had throughout the entire movie. Once I saw the Interstellar inspired warp travel I thought the movie fell from there. Star Trek has a rich identity and should be a default setting when a director loses track of what a Star Trek movie should be. Does the crew have to be maroon on a generic planet; could there be more to the planet then it seemed; it would've been nice if the crew delved into a mystery of that planet.

Karl Urban finally had the opportunity to give his McCoy some dimension, the first two movies he's aping DeForest Kelly too much where he was making a caricature of the late actor. This time he handle his character well, a nice and pleasant addition to a movie which didn't have much soul at all, it was his elements in the movie where I was looking forward to another sequel so producers can explore this version of McCoy and maybe develop plot with his character heavily involved.
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I know its unlikely that we will get another movie but i always felt it was time for McCoy to evolve. the next movie could have given him his own personal story as he has had none in the 3 films. all we know about him was he had a messy divorce. nothing more, nothing less.
 
RAMA said:
I've been on record stating the 3 Kelvin movies were JJ's true calling, and that fever dream of producing Star Wars was just a nightmare. The Kelvin films outclass any SW film since 1980, in entertainment value, character, dynamicism, commentary and color!
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I sure see this.JJ should have just directed beyond and completed the trilogy. amends some of the issues of STID, just because star wars was back and was more popular than star trek was no excuse to quickly jump ship but then again, JJ is quite the shallow the director.

his star wars films were not only a nightmare, they are a stain that will forever hunt his movie career. those Disney star wars films got so awful that they felt insulting to the 6 original movies and JJ Abrams is the one mostly to blame for that. that is a burden i can see him struggling to live with as a director for a very long time.
 
Dales said:
his star wars films were not only a nightmare, they are a stain that will forever hunt his movie career. those Disney star wars films got so awful that they felt insulting to the 6 original movies and JJ Abrams is the one mostly to blame for that. that is a burden i can see him struggling to live with as a director for a very long time.
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I don't see how. He produce the films wanted, made money, and continues to be a successful producer. I know this isn't the forum for it but the prequels were far more insulting to Star Wars than anything in the ST. Also, the same argument was used against the Star Trek films (an "insult" or as I saw on another forum "a heresy.":rommie:) and is also less accurate.

I think Abrams' will be just fine and I hope he returns to Star Trek.
 
For me Star Trek Beyond has the best ending of the three films
the fight floating though the gravity slip streams is beautifully visualized.
the reveling of the electronic picture of the original cast(highly moving moment)
 
fireproof78 said:
As much as I enjoy the ST I have to agree. If only Abrams had been willing to be in charge of the Trek franchise.
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There were reports saying that he'd wanted to turn Star Trek into a much more expansive multimedia franchise. Then he was apparently turned down and decided to do Star Wars instead.
 
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There were reports saying that he'd wanted to turn Star Trek into a much more expansive multimedia franchise. Then he was apparently turned down and decided to do Star Wars instead.
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Some of the rumours at the time were that he wanted to do pretty much what Alex Kurtzman is doing now, except led by the movies MCU style.
 
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For me Star Trek Beyond has the best ending of the three films
the fight floating though the gravity slip streams is beautifully visualized.
the reveling of the electronic picture of the original cast(highly moving moment)
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The FX in general are excellent in this movie, especially the yorktown sequences. I would have liked the planet to look more alien though.
 
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