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Better Call Saul, the TV series

After it was all over I loved that Gus just calmly calls Lyle to ask him to manage the restaurant.

I thought Kim understood that Jimmy sent her wanting her to just run. And obviously Lalo sent therm fully expecting Gus’ men to kill whoever went, not knowing Mike knew and trusted Kim.

The biggest questions for me are, can Kim live with herself, and more imminently, will Cliff doubt the story? Even though he seemed to partially believe it when Sandpiper was getting out of hand, there have to be things Howard said that will gnaw at him after he finds out he’s dead.
 
Godsdamn you, Vince Gilligan, you magnificent bastard.

Ever wonder what it's like to be run through the ringer?

That might give you inkling what it felt like to watch "Point and Shoot."

From Kim's sheer terror and Lalo's manic energy to Gus' ice cold veins and Mike's quiet patience, every fucking moment was riveting and intense and insane and utterly brilliant. Even when I figured out what Lalo was doing or why Saul sent Kim in his place or how Gus foresaw the upper hand, I was still constantly at the edge of my seat waiting for each pin to drop.

With Lalo finally dead and Howard quietly swept away, the big lingering question remains: What now?

Can Kim understand and accept why Saul sent her to do Lalo's bidding, unknowing at that time he was actually sending her to safety? Can she move past the level of trauma she experienced in that moment? Is this when she finally walks away? If not, how does she learn to continue foreward?

And what about Saul? Will he be able to forgive Kim for not telling him she knew Lalo was still alive while they were fancifully scheming against Howard?

How do either of them move on from the trauma of that night and at a drop of a hat like Mike quietly insists on?

With the threat of Lalo gone, what does Gus do from here? How does he explain Lalo's disappearance? And how will Hector take it? Because obviously he'll smell a rat. But what about the rest of the organization?

Lastly, let's take a moment, once again, to recognize Howard didn't deserve any of this. He was a bastard at times, both towards Jimmy and Kim, and to even Chuck if in a different way. But this is how it ended for him. Buried in an unmarked grave underneath a meth operation. Next to his fucking murderer. And the world thinks he spiraled into cocaine and committed suicide. Howard didn't deserve that.

Speaking of that unmarked grave underneath the meth operation. I'm sure we all figured there were bodies buried there way back in Breaking Bad, but I never thought we would ever know who they were!

"Point and Shoot" easily ranks up there with "Ozymandias" and "Bagman" as one of the finest episodes of these two brilliant shows.

...and we still have five more episodes left!

Post script: Since I didn't have a natural place to mention it in my review, I have to mention how much I loved the brief moment of Gus angrily brushing dirt from his fancy white shirt after getting up from Lalo searching his body.

^Hector already knows Fring's a rat. He never liked him and always suspected he was up to something. He was tapping that ringer like crazy that day they were out in the desert and Nacho offed himself. Looks like the bodies are under that tank we saw Walt and Jesse scrub time to time. I wonder if DEA checked under the concrete...

MIke really was BS'ing Walt when he told him everything was fine before Walt showed up...
 
Holy shit.

That was so tense. Kim walking up to Fring’s door, I thought I was going to have a full-blown panic attack.

What an incredible ending…Lalo and Howard were under the floor of Walter’s lab the whole time. That is so fucked up!

Just…wow. I really wish this show wasn’t ending. It hasn’t lost a thing since the beginning.

Fuck Lalo, the psycho bastard!

:lol:
 
Rhea Seehorn has finally been nominated for Best Supporting Actress in a Drama! Unfortunately, she's going against Julia Garner so the odds are against her winning.

Sadly, only the series and Bob Odenkirk were also nominated. Tony, Dalton, Jonathan Banks, and Giancarlo Esposito were completely shut out thanks to multiple nominations to Succession, Squid Games, and Severance each.
 
Woah that was tense! :scream:

Great first episode back. Gus, you smooth bastard, just casually calling work to say he wouldn't make it in after his gunshot wound. :D

As much of an annoyance as Howard has been over the years, it was a pretty cold way to end the character, in the same grave as his murderer.

It will be very interesting to see just how jIMMY and Kim cope with all of the fallout.
 
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That was incredible. From Lalo chatting away while Jimmy and Kim lose their shit, to Jimmy slipping into lawyer mode and making a watertight case for Kim to go instead of him. I think Kim understood that he was doing it for her, I suspect he actually wanted her to run, not got and try and kill Fring! I guess Lalo didn't much care who went, although presumably he wanted someone to go and distract Fring if nothing else.

Her walking up to the house I just kept thinking, let Mike intercept her, let Mike intercept her! :lol:

Love the moment when Fring realised it was a ploy, and also the moment when Mike realised he'd been played.

Lalo and Fring's face-off was wonderful. If I have an issue, and I know I'm being really picky, but Gus leaving the gun there episodes ago still feels clunky and contrived.

So that's Nacho, Howard and Lalo dead now. Again wondering about Kim!

And poor Howard, he really didn't deserve this. His reputation in tatters, murdered but all anyone will think is that he killed himself, and I do wonder if the fact that Jimmy and Kim fed into that narrative (unintentionally) will eat away at Kim. The horrible thing is how well it will play, especially once Howard's therapy sessions and the fact that he was estranged from his wife get taken into account.

Dang watching Breaking Bad again is going to be fucked up knowing Howard and Lalo are under the floor!
 
With the threat of Lalo gone, what does Gus do from here? How does he explain Lalo's disappearance? And how will Hector take it? Because obviously he'll smell a rat. But what about the rest of the organization?

But as far as anyone other than Hector is aware, Lalo is dead. He died in Mexico.
 
I wondered if Fring took a picture of Lalo, showed it to Hector discreetly before destroying it and the film/memory card. It'd explain why Lalo wasn't mentioned when Fring told him all of the Salamancas were dead. Lalo was already dead before the attack on the chicken farm....

And I'm glad Mike didn't explicitly tell Jimmy that Lalo was dead for sure as he was still afraid of Lalo going after him.... Jimmy still doesn't know Nacho is dead....I don't think.
 
MIke really was BS'ing Walt when he told him everything was fine before Walt showed up...

When you think about it there's a lot of little changes that would have made Fring the ultimate winner.

If Gale had not pushed Fring not to accept his 96% as sufficient.
If Hank had not beaten up Jesse, forcing Walt to bring him back in.
 
Good episode. When Lalo sent Kim to shoot Fring, I didn't doubt that Mike would stop her. Lalo going for the lab was a bit unexpected, though. I really didn't expect to see Lalo die in this ep.

With Lalo and Howard both gone, it sort of opens it up the final episodes to segue in Breaking Bad. The only real mystery left is what happens with Kim.
 
Well that and we got to find out what happens to Jimmy as Gene. Does anyone think they might do another show or a movie about Gene someday?
 
I doubt there's any mileage in a show or movie about Gene's life, but I won't be surprised if the final episode isn't set predominantly in Nebraska in the future/present that Gene inhabits.

I think the only thing that will potentially ruin the show for me now is killing Kim, if only because it feeds into that problem a lot of prequels have of "Well character X wasn't seen in the original series/film so they MUST have died before hand." See Rogue 1 for details.
 
Good episode. When Lalo sent Kim to shoot Fring, I didn't doubt that Mike would stop her. Lalo going for the lab was a bit unexpected, though. I really didn't expect to see Lalo die in this ep.

It was pretty sure Mike was going to stop her, I just wasn't sure he'd be able to stop his boss from executing the person who literally came to his house intending to murder him. Regardless of her extenuating circumstances.

It was also pretty clear he was going to the laundry before the break when he called Hector and realized he was being listened in on and then said the opposite.

I'm not sure how much farther they could have kept Lalo alive without him telling somebody what Fring was up to, so his death had to be coming very soon.
 
I was surprised to see Lalo exit so soon, that sort of wraps things up and probably going to see some time jumps now to move us forward 4 years.

There won't be any Gene follow up movie I don't think, but really hope we get to see him with Kim, surely someone other than jesse deserves a happy (ish) ending.

Much as I love Walt and Jesse I too don't feel lots of excitement, so fully expecting to be blown away, hope it's not a hank type appearance which didn't really add to the storyline.
 
I wouldn't be surprised though if Kim does die because it sort of makes dramatic sense. It means Jimmy because of his actions has lost everyone in his life he loved , his job and even his name. Maybe he spends the rest of his life living a unhappy life as Gene or likely another name to replace that one.
 
I wouldn't be surprised though if Kim does die because it sort of makes dramatic sense. It means Jimmy because of his actions has lost everyone in his life he loved , his job and even his name. Maybe he spends the rest of his life living a unhappy life as Gene or likely another name to replace that one.

I have no idea whether she'll die, I can see it just as easily either way.

If I were to guess right now, Cliff chases down his suspicion about Jimmy having something to do with Howard's death, Kim ends up being caught for it, and she becomes a vacuum guy client.
 
I don't think they will go that way since the actor died. I think they might have done it if he was still alive.
 
I don't think they will go that way since the actor died. I think they might have done it if he was still alive.

Robert Forster didn't even appear on screen until the second to last episode of Breaking Bad, yet he was a known entity since season 4. It would have been great to have him play the vacuum guy. But all they need is to show Kim make a phone call then get picked up by a car in the middle of the desert.
 
I think the only thing that will potentially ruin the show for me now is killing Kim, if only because it feeds into that problem a lot of prequels have of "Well character X wasn't seen in the original series/film so they MUST have died before hand." See Rogue 1 for details.

They could always go the Saw route and show pivotal scenes with Walter, Jesse and Saul from Breaking Bad, then showing an alternate viewpoint where Kim is there (kinda like Saw did, showing Hoffman and Amanda being involved from the beginning). I just don't want Kim to die :(

The Howard thing messed with me. Sure, he was a douche, but he didn't deserve to be buried by Lalo for all eternity in the underground lab.
 
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