Best/Worst Picks
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Well let's be fair. You ARE assuming that. Unless you can categorically state that no one who posts in the Enterprise forum posts in any of the others, including this one.
Whether you've been here for 5 minutes or for 5 years, it doesn't take much trawling back through the pages to find the most recent 'best/worst' polls. There's also the search function.
Knowing what people think is slightly different to being able to make a call based on trends.
I've only just come back from these boards myself after a lengthy hiatus. From what I recall Voyager people are as active on the general board as anyone else, unless that's drastically changed in my absence, which I doubt.
Whether you've been here for 5 minutes or for 5 years, it doesn't take much trawling back through the pages to find the most recent 'best/worst' polls. There's also the search function.
Knowing what people think is slightly different to being able to make a call based on trends.
I've only just come back from these boards myself after a lengthy hiatus. From what I recall Voyager people are as active on the general board as anyone else, unless that's drastically changed in my absence, which I doubt.
So explain 1 person out of 50 voting for Voyager. Oh--I get it--no true fan would place it first. They might like it, but not as a first choice. Not if they are true Trek fans. Got it.
ETA: As for assuming things--to do proper research, you must start with a hypothesis, that's a point that you think is right. Then you try to prove or disprove it--that's all that I'm talking about here. I'm not assuming--I'm hypothesizing based on probability. Only time and more polls will tell me if I'm right.
ETA: As for assuming things--to do proper research, you must start with a hypothesis, that's a point that you think is right. Then you try to prove or disprove it--that's all that I'm talking about here. I'm not assuming--I'm hypothesizing based on probability. Only time and more polls will tell me if I'm right.
And this dispproves that the nasty, dismissive tone toward Voyager in the General Trek section drives fans of the series away...how, exactly?
My hypothesis is reasonable, it would take a long time to dig into the previous occurances, a researcher has to start somewhere.
Each and every hypothesis is skewed to what a researcher thinks is the correct answer--a poor researcher ignores the results. A hypothesis has to start somewhere--you ask a question based on what you think is a reasonalbe answer--nothing wrong with that. Wait to see what I do with results and then judge to see if I skew them.
I didn't think that I was intervening. Not sure what questioning if some fans stay away from this section of the board has to with intervening about the choice of "worst." I'm asking if it happens--and if you are correct about "why," I intend to acknowledge it.
My hypothesis is a follow-up question to the trashing--what's wrong with that? I'm asking why--I don't see that as intervening.
My hypothesis is a follow-up question to the trashing--what's wrong with that? I'm asking why--I don't see that as intervening.
It's called inference. You're inferring that shows that aren't doing too well in the poll, should be doing well, or at least better.
It's like me starting a poll saying what do you prefer, black or white? and then when people vote for white, me bemoaning "Where are all the people who like black, they obviously haven't seen the question!"
Your best bet is just to start it, leave it, and then collate the results. Don't get involved, it's the easiest way of avoiding the introduction of bias into the results.
It's like me starting a poll saying what do you prefer, black or white? and then when people vote for white, me bemoaning "Where are all the people who like black, they obviously haven't seen the question!"
Your best bet is just to start it, leave it, and then collate the results. Don't get involved, it's the easiest way of avoiding the introduction of bias into the results.
Hmmm...I didn't mean to interfere, 90% of my posts are in response to yours. I didn't mean to interfere with the poll--should have just pm'ed you. I'd say that NEITHER of us know when to leave well enough alone--everyone else just probably got out the popcorn and watched the trainwreck.
You know, KayArr...
I'm pretty new here to. But from the exposure I've had to this message board, I can already say that you're probably the most annoying poster I've come across.
This poll's results don't jive with your opinion. And that apparently isn't fine with you otherwise you wouldn't be attempting to dispute them.
When you put anything up for a vote, there is always the chance that the results wont be inline with your expectations. If you knew in advance you couldn't handle that, you shouldn't have made the poll.
You accuse the DS9 fans of 'chasing away' fans of the other shows, calling it 'sad'.
Pathetic.
All I see are people coming into this thread, casting votes, and posting their vote publicly below.
The only person I see vehemently arguing about DS9 across the message board is you. And to make it worse, you're doing it having seen very little of the show.
If anybody is chasing anybody else off, it is you.
Ridiculous.
I'm pretty new here to. But from the exposure I've had to this message board, I can already say that you're probably the most annoying poster I've come across.
This poll's results don't jive with your opinion. And that apparently isn't fine with you otherwise you wouldn't be attempting to dispute them.
When you put anything up for a vote, there is always the chance that the results wont be inline with your expectations. If you knew in advance you couldn't handle that, you shouldn't have made the poll.
You accuse the DS9 fans of 'chasing away' fans of the other shows, calling it 'sad'.
Pathetic.
All I see are people coming into this thread, casting votes, and posting their vote publicly below.
The only person I see vehemently arguing about DS9 across the message board is you. And to make it worse, you're doing it having seen very little of the show.
If anybody is chasing anybody else off, it is you.
Ridiculous.
So...since you don't like the results so far you are now marking the whole thing down to a preponderance of certain series' fans hanging out in GTD in higher density than other shows' fans???
Excuse me for saying so...but if you don't want the answer, don't ask the question.
And ESPECIALLY don't post threads in all the show forums pimping your GTD polls and telling people to 'come and check it out'.
Cus we might just...ya know....take you up on it. Just sayin'.
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The reason DS9 always wins Polls amongst hardcore Trek fans is simply because it is the best and most popular show amongst hardcore Trek fans. Not because fans of other shows stay away from Polls. Hardcore Trek fans have seen all the shows, and therefore are best qualified to judge the merits of all the shows. DS9 is the clear winner due to it's superior stories, superior acting, superior character development and many other things. It is true that a majority opinion does not equate to something being correct. But the opinion that DS9 is the best for all of these reasons, does happen to be correct. :thumbsup:
Having experienced all of DS9, they have, with good, tangible reasons, come to the conclusion and somewhat of a consensus that it's the best. Even yourself has admitted you haven't seen most of the DS9 series. That is also the same boat that most others who do not think DS9 is great are usually in. They usually have formed an opinion based on not being fully versed in the series. Which isn't really making an informed decision as to the merits of DS9 vs. other Trek shows.
Some don't like DS9 because they don't like it's great aspects, and see them as flaws. Those particular things may be based on opinion.
However, where DS9 is a higher quality show beyond any reasonable dispute is in character development of all the characters on the show, the continuing stories of the show, and the strength of the acting on the show. On the DVD extras of DS9 one of the makers (Ira, IIRC) stated that the secondary characters on DS9 have more character development than any of the main characters on any other Trek show. And he's right. I'd like to see that be credibly disputed.
Stuff like that is not a matter of opinion. It is qualities like these which are tangible facts that put DS9 head and shoulders above the other modern Trek shows. The ultimate reason why DS9 is generally seen as the best by hardcore Trek fans, is because it truly is the best.
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