Best Star Trek Movies that aren't actually Star Trek Movies

[Red Ranger]

I am surprised that court lady wasn't portrayed by Lucy Liu.

I don't recall Lucy Liu doing any period pieces about obscure Japanese historical characters. Or banging William Shatner.

For the right amount of money, that "sell out" is likely to bang any caucasian actor on-screen.

Whoa, that's cold, GWR! But I understand where you're coming from. Just for the record, I don't understand why that cross-eyed creature has a career! -- RR

 

[Good Will Riker]

Whoa, that's cold, GWR! But I understand where you're coming from. Just for the record, I don't understand why that cross-eyed creature has a career! -- RR

That is hilarious!

Sidebar: Contrary to what most Asians/Asian Americans say about Lucy Liu being "not that pretty" compared to a lot of actresses and models that you see in Asia (Due to her "slant eyes," compared to the large "round eyes" of Asian actresses and models due to "eyelift" cosmetic surgery), I have actually seen Lucy Liu up close and in person while walking in New York (Then again, it's not that hard to run into a celebrity when you are there.), and she has a clean porcelain skin and cute freckles on her cheeks. She looked hot! (Now, I could understand Bender's obsession with her in "Futurama.") .

 

[Sector 7]

^I've always thought she was beautiful, too. I've never understood why people like to trash her. Perhaps it is because she plays a bitch in many of her acting roles. Frye had an obsession with Lucy Liu as well.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

I have to add another vote for Master and Commander. What I liked most about that movie is that it should what it was like to live on a Ship of the Line in the Age of Sail.

I've always wanted Trek to get more into what it's like to "live" on these starships, much like we got during the early episodes of TOS's first season. Apparently, it was soemthing that we might've gotten had Phase II didn't turn into TMP. At least, according to some of the memos from the aboarted production.

M&C had the right balance between the daily grind and the developing action of the French frigate. It had a more delibrate pace than your typical action movie, slow and steady but still engaging and entertaining to watch. I'd like to see that one day in a Trek movie.

 

[Lapis Exilis]

Since Forbidden Planet & Galaxy Quest have already been mentioned:

300.

Best. Klingon. Movie. EVER.

Wow, that puts a whole new perspective on a movie I thought of as total shite. Maybe I need to rewatch it and just picture everyone having foreheads as ridged as their computer-generated abs!

 

[Good Will Riker]

^I've always thought she was beautiful, too.

Some members of the Asian/Asian American community denounce her because she is not "beautiful" (Lucy Liu having "slant eyes," while there are more beautiful actresses and models in Asia with the more westernized "round eyes" who they believe should have the level of success that Lucy Liu achieved through her hardwork in Hollywood.).

I've never understood why people like to trash her.

I can only speak on behalf of what I have heard through the grapevine from some members of the Asian American community, but they dislike the fact that Lucy Liu is "white washed" and does nothing to advance the progress of Asian American actors and actresses in Hollywood, and only benefit herself in these "supporting" film roles so that she can have herself all of the fame, swag, and perks.

Plus, she is only romantically paired with white males on screen, and is never romantically paired with another Asian/Asian American male. Some members of the Asian American community would call that being "white washed" and "a sellout."

Perhaps it is because she plays a bitch in many of her acting roles.

It is the old "Dragon Lady stereotype" of the Hollywood 1920's-1930's that still exist today in Hollywood films, and Lucy Liu has apparently become the modern day image and stereotype of that to general filmgoers and in the eyes of the Asian/Asian American community. This is considered an offensive stereotype held over from the days of the "Yellow Peril" propaganda of the United States of the 19th and 20th centuries.

"Yellow Peril" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Peril

"Anna May Wong" (The Poster Woman for the Dragon Lady stereotype) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_May_Wong

Frye had an obsession with Lucy Liu as well.

Phillip J. Fry displayed one of those loser Asian girl fetishes that had nothing to do with admiration or respect for the Asian/Asian American race/community and cultural traditions/heritage. He just wanted to bang her.

Besides, that whole episode was all about schmoozing up to Lucy Liu who also starred in another popular Fox TV show at the time: "Ally McBeal."

 

[ManOnTheWave]

Didn't see this coming.

 

[Garibaldi O'brien]

(1) Lucy Liu is quite stunning.

(2) I always thought the movie Midway would be an Epic story in the Trekverse.

 

[stj]

Since Forbidden Planet & Galaxy Quest have already been mentioned:

300.

Best. Klingon. Movie. EVER.

Well, it does capture the Klingon spirit fairly well. But that's why I hate modern Klingons. (And another reason I find the Moore worship prevalent on this bbs so crazy.)

 

[Tom]

'The Day the Earth Stood Still' they make first contact with an earth like planet and tell there is a bigger society out there (federation) and they must unify as a planet so they can be apart of it..etc etc..

 

[SpockWeed]

I could see Picard going through a 12 Monkeys kinda thing. Omega Man always reminded me of someplace Kirk and Spock would beam to.

 

[Good Will Riker]

(1) Lucy Liu is quite stunning.

I wouldn't exactly use those words to describe her, but from having seen her in person, she is more in the "cute" category of attractiveness.

 

[Sector 7]

^I've always thought she was beautiful, too.

Some members of the Asian/Asian American community denounce her because she is not "beautiful" (Lucy Liu having "slant eyes," while there are more beautiful actresses and models in Asia with the more westernized "round eyes" who they believe should have the level of success that Lucy Liu achieved through her hardwork in Hollywood.).

I've never understood why people like to trash her.

I can only speak on behalf of what I have heard through the grapevine from some members of the Asian American community, but they dislike the fact that Lucy Liu is "white washed" and does nothing to advance the progress of Asian American actors and actresses in Hollywood, and only benefit herself in these "supporting" film roles so that she can have herself all of the fame, swag, and perks.

Plus, she is only romantically paired with white males on screen, and is never romantically paired with another Asian/Asian American male. Some members of the Asian American community would call that being "white washed" and "a sellout."

Perhaps it is because she plays a bitch in many of her acting roles.

It is the old "Dragon Lady stereotype" of the Hollywood 1920's-1930's that still exist today in Hollywood films, and Lucy Liu has apparently become the modern day image and stereotype of that to general filmgoers and in the eyes of the Asian/Asian American community. This is considered an offensive stereotype held over from the days of the "Yellow Peril" propaganda of the United States of the 19th and 20th centuries.

"Yellow Peril" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Peril

"Anna May Wong" (The Poster Woman for the Dragon Lady stereotype) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_May_Wong

Frye had an obsession with Lucy Liu as well.

Phillip J. Fry displayed one of those loser Asian girl fetishes that had nothing to do with admiration or respect for the Asian/Asian American race/community and cultural traditions/heritage. He just wanted to bang her.

Besides, that whole episode was all about schmoozing up to Lucy Liu who also starred in another popular Fox TV show at the time: "Ally McBeal."

sooooo... successful=sellout...? I have a few Asian-American and Asian-Canadian friends (silly me... I thought we were all just Americans and Canadians) and like me, they all think she is hot and a good actress... none of them call her a sellout. But, thanks to this thread I've been reminded to call them about this topic.

I'd start calling myself a Scotch-Irish-English-German Jewish-Cherokee-Gay-American to be politically correct, but it's a mouthful and I think it is ridiculous to be that pretentious. Although when my godson (who is black) went through his little prejudice phase, I made him refer to me by that title. He soon realized how silly it is to label people.

 

[Good Will Riker]

^^^

I am not being prejudiced when I see a prominent member of my Asian American community not help promote other Asian American actors and actresses towards success in Hollywood and covet it for herself.

Lucy Liu always likes to be the "lone Asian American supporting actress in the limelight," which can be disheartening to others who also share her dreams and goals.

 

[Sector 7]

Originally Posted by GoodWillRiker
I can only speak on behalf of what I have heard through the grapevine from some members of the Asian American community, but they dislike the fact that Lucy Liu is "white washed" and does nothing to advance the progress of Asian American actors and actresses in Hollywood, and only benefit herself in these "supporting" film roles so that she can have herself all of the fame, swag, and perks.

Plus, she is only romantically paired with white males on screen, and is never romantically paired with another Asian/Asian American male. Some members of the Asian American community would call that being "white washed" and "a sellout."

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Sounds like 'some members' are very racist indeed. God forbid if she ever fell in love with a 'round eye'... eh?

 

[Good Will Riker]

*bold type-face used for my emphasis*
Sounds like 'some members' are very racist indeed. God forbid if she ever fell in love with a 'round eye'... eh?

My younger sister happens to be married to a 3rd generation Irish American, so I am in support of miscegenation by all means.

However, what Asian American males generally find offensive about Asian American actresses like Lucy Liu paired with white actors in Hollywood films "all of the time" is the message that is sent out to the mass media implying that Asian American males are not even desirable to the Asian American women who are from their own community within the United States.

As it stands, Asian American males have no status as leads in Hollywood films (You be the judge why they are generally underemployed in front of the camera in Hollywood films?), and are usually given the roles of waiters and delivery boys, or stereotypical gangsters (The Fast and the Furious, Lethal Weapon 4) or the perpetual-stereotypical martial artist in major Hollywood productions, yet we also have to be humiliated by having Asian American women paired with white men all of the time too even in seminal Asian American novels/films like The Joy Luck Club. I know what Hollywood is doing, and I personally do not like the way they operate.

Not only do Asian American males "not get the girl" in major Hollywood productions, but they also do not get "the Asian/Asian American girl," either as evidenced by Hollywood films such as Enter the Dragon, Snow Falling on Cedars, Charlie's Angels, and The Last Samurai just to name a few.

 

[JuanBolio]

2001
2010
Forbidden Planet
Galaxy Quest
Run Silent, Run Deep
The Hunt for Red October
Master and Commander

 

[stoneagepunk]

I recommend tracking down an old '60s Cold War movie called "The Bedford Incident". Richard Widmark stars as a Captain driven to breaking point while dodging a Russian submarine. Sidney Poitier is along for the ride as a journalist, causing much of the friction. (Although Widmark is a hard taskmaster, especially in a memorable scene with the ship's underappreciated Doctor). It has one of the best shock endings ever seen on film.

Yes I agree, I remember the Bedford incident too, would have made a great Star trek movie

 

[Shawnster]

Master and Commander

The Horatio Hornblower series from A&E.

 

[Sector 7]

*bold type-face used for my emphasis*
Sounds like 'some members' are very racist indeed. God forbid if she ever fell in love with a 'round eye'... eh?

My younger sister happens to be married to a 3rd generation Irish American, so I am in support of miscegenation by all means.

However, what Asian American males generally find offensive about Asian American actresses like Lucy Liu paired with white actors in Hollywood films "all of the time" is the message that is sent out to the mass media implying that Asian American males are not even desirable to the Asian American women who are from their own community within the United States.

As it stands, Asian American males have no status as leads in Hollywood films (You be the judge why they are generally underemployed in front of the camera in Hollywood films?), and are usually given the roles of waiters and delivery boys, or stereotypical gangsters (The Fast and the Furious, Lethal Weapon 4) or the perpetual-stereotypical martial artist in major Hollywood productions, yet we also have to be humiliated by having Asian American women paired with white men all of the time too even in seminal Asian American novels/films like The Joy Luck Club. I know what Hollywood is doing, and I personally do not like the way they operate.

Not only do Asian American males "not get the girl" in major Hollywood productions, but they also do not get "the Asian/Asian American girl," either as evidenced by Hollywood films such as Enter the Dragon, Snow Falling on Cedars, Charlie's Angels, and The Last Samurai just to name a few.

Quoting your younger sister as an exception then spending three paragraphs complaining about mixed pairings tells more about your beliefs than you may be aware. I stand by what I said.
Since this is counter-productive, I will make this my last post on this subject. I do not want to derail a good thread.