Best Mom in Trek!

[SalyutBuran]

Agreed. I think the doctor on The Orville is a direct response in some ways to Beverly - she's far more invested in her kids, while still being a terrific doctor and character.

Yet another great reminder of exactly why Orville is star trek. Take something done poorly and make it right.

 

[SalyutBuran]

I don't see Lwaxana Troi as a "good" mother.

"Good" parents don't ignore and trivialise their adult children's opinions and choices. They don't attempt to manipulate (and bully) their children into what the parent feels is the "right" choice (especially over relationships). They don't turn up at the child's workplace, insult the child's managers and interfere with the work the child is doing.

Lwaxana Troi's background might explain why she does this, and I don't think that she doesn't want to be a "good" mother but good intentions aren't the same as good parenting. Parents want to be good parents and it's hard to imagine anyone who deliberately sets out to be a "bad" parent nevertheless there are bad parents out there.

If intentions are the thing that makes someone a "good" parent then it's hard to see why Worf gets such a bad rap.

Lwaxana did her best and that must be chalked up as a point in her favour. "Good enough" yes: "Good" no.

Put that in the context of the fact she suffers from obvious mental illness.

I'm not saying she's bipolar, but she's absolutely in that betazoid ballpark.

Difference with Worf is he didn't even try.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Amsha Bashir.

She gave the best speech about the difficulties of parenting and parental love. The part was played by a first time, indeed only time, actor.

"You don't know. You've never had a child. You don't know what it's like to watch your son. To watch him fall a little further behind every day. You know he's trying, but something's holding him back. You don't know what it's like to stay up every night worrying that maybe it's your fault. Maybe you did something wrong during the pregnancy, maybe you weren't careful enough, or maybe there's something wrong with you. Maybe you passed on a genetic defect without even knowing it."

 

[Lord Exor]

The Borg Queen.

 

[Oddish]

Yet another great reminder of exactly why Orville is star trek. Take something done poorly and make it right.

Well, I've heard that many Trekkies consider "Galaxy Quest" to be Star Trek. So why not "The Orville"?

Put that in the context of the fact she suffers from obvious mental illness.

Maybe. Losing a child is a horrific experience. But erasing them from existence is hardly a normal response.

 

[Vger23]

I’ve got to go with Keiko O’Brien.

Freeman? C’mon man.

 

[Oddish]

"You don't know. You've never had a child. You don't know what it's like to watch your son. To watch him fall a little further behind every day. You know he's trying, but something's holding him back. You don't know what it's like to stay up every night worrying that maybe it's your fault. Maybe you did something wrong during the pregnancy, maybe you weren't careful enough, or maybe there's something wrong with you. Maybe you passed on a genetic defect without even knowing it."

As someone who transports special needs kids, I can empathize with her.

Freeman? C’mon man.

I stand by what I said. I think she does the best she can, given her daughter's major wild streak.