Best engineering chief?

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Deimos Anomaly, Sep 13, 2012.



  1. Scotty

    42 vote(s)
  2. LaForge

    13 vote(s)
  3. O'Brien

    24 vote(s)
  4. Torres

    5 vote(s)
  5. Tucker

    9 vote(s)
  1. RB_Kandy

    RB_Kandy Commander Red Shirt

    Aug 7, 2012
    You know, I really like LeForge, but I love Scotty.
    However, an argument can be made for Torres. She routinely re-invented the laws of the universe by spouting technobabble and pressing buttons. Of course the laws of universe return to normal in the next episode.

    Think about it
    B'Elanna: Captain, I have an idea. I can send a shock burst of tachyon radiation through the ship at just the precise amplitude to reverse the negative protons in our bodies driving out the voodoo demons. I just need to remodulate the attenuators on the anti matter converter overflows. But to protect ourselves against the radiation I am going to send an inverted chronoton wave through the doctor's mobile emmiter and piggy back the signal off of Seven's cortical implant through subspace.

    I have seen so many convoluted solutions like that on Voyager.
  2. Xhiandra

    Xhiandra Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Apr 29, 2012
    At the other extreme of the spectrum, Geordi's technobabble seemed the most internally consistent: what's impossible in one episode isn't easily achieved 3 seasons later.
    Time for the campaign slogan:

    A vote for LaForge is a vote for consistent laws of physics!
  3. R. Star

    R. Star Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jun 15, 2012
    I'll agree with this one, if just on the technobabble point. LaForge and by proxy the TNG writers used it how it was meant to be. Sparingly and never to the point where you're confusing the audience.

    Voyager not only threw out entire paragraphs of Technobabble at a time, they made it major plot points.
  4. SimpleLogic

    SimpleLogic Guest

    I loved that episode.:bolian:
  5. Mr_Homn

    Mr_Homn Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Jan 30, 2010
    So true
  6. Mage

    Mage Commodore Commodore

    Jun 17, 2007
    For me, it's O'Brien. Just because he actually had to some pretty hardcore engineering on that Cardassian monster, instead of just working with pre-fab, mostly perfect Starfleet tech.
  7. Hartzilla2007

    Hartzilla2007 Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jul 15, 2006
    Star Trekkin Across the universe.
    I tend to go with Scotty, and pop culture agrees with me :techman:
  8. SilentP

    SilentP Commodore Commodore

    May 21, 2009
    is in a very lonely Corner of the Circle
    O'Brien because:
    -He managed to get an old, wrecked Cardassian station's tech to mingle with Federation technology.
    -He ironed out the kink's in the troublesome Defiant to the point where Starfleet actually could start making more comfortably.
    -Ran an engineering department that not only repaired and maintained a space station and attending starship, but did the same for the dozens of vessels that visited DS9.
    -He could do the above in wartime conditions too.
    -Engineering wasn't even his original department (used to be security).
  9. trekkiebaggio

    trekkiebaggio Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jul 20, 2004
    Dancing to the Jailhouse Rock
    Very close between Scotty and O'Brien but I went for the Miles.
  10. Wereghost

    Wereghost Part-time poltergeist Rear Admiral

    Oct 21, 2009
    Best Engineering Chief: LaForge, for reasons already articulated in this thread.

    Best Character would be Scotty. LaForge falls down for pretty much the character traits that make him a great engineer. There's pretty much no room in his psyche for quirky or counterproductive behaviour.
  11. Sector 7

    Sector 7 Vice Admiral Admiral

    Mar 27, 2008
    Rural North Carolina
    Montgomery Scott: Scotty is the standard by which all StarFleet engineers are judged. He also wrote the book on Starship Engineering.
  12. Mr_Homn

    Mr_Homn Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Jan 30, 2010
    Is o'brien even technically an engineering chief?

    I thought he was chief of ops. And before that transporter chief.

    I think its gotta be between scotty and laforge, you know, actual engineering chiefs
  13. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Neil The Hippy Premium Member

    Nov 4, 2001
    Scumbag College
    I'd go with Scotty, O'Brien and Trip. LaForge and Torres never really impressed me much.
  14. Takeru

    Takeru Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Sep 6, 2007
    I voted for Torres.

    Scotty sucked! Sorry Scotty fans but it's true, when was he ever a shown to be a good engineer? He did an okay job but only seemed great because he flat out lied to his superiors.

    Geordie was okay, my only problem with him was that he couldn't stop the warp core from blowing up under his ass, "There's gas coming out of the wall! The ship's lost, get out of here!!!" "Sir, shoudn't we try to repair the coolant leek or eject the ..." "Barrel roll!!!"

    O'Brien is a guy I'd like to hang out with, but I don't see anything that makes him the best engineer.

    Tucker? Meh.

    Torres was a true miracle worker, she kept the ship running for seven years with no starbases nearby, she and her staff worked 24/7 to keep the plasma running and the gel packs healthy, she found a way to build irreplacable photon torpedoes and cranked out shuttle after shuttle in her spare time.
  15. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Admiral Admiral

    Feb 12, 2011
    Gene's office
  16. Takeru

    Takeru Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Sep 6, 2007
    He admitted it himself, he wildly exaggerated to become known as a miracle worker, no exaggeration, no miracle worker, no best engineer.
  17. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Admiral Admiral

    Feb 12, 2011
    Gene's office
    As already pointed out, and correctly, by Maurice upthread, that was a joke. Playful banter between two old friends, Kirk and Scotty.

    As for, "when was he ever a shown to be a good engineer?" For a question that requires only a single example to answer, how about The Doomsday Machine, for just one example among scores.
  18. Nightdiamond

    Nightdiamond Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Feb 18, 2009
    You never doubted that Laforge knew his stuff--he had the biggest techno babble scenes I have ever heard. This dude was married to technology.

    I could never understand Torres being the chief engineer. She had only a year or two at the academy, and then dropped out.

    And then Janeway makes her chief engineer over more experienced engineers -she runs operations, writes schedules, reports, disciplinary actions etc.

    Though I like her character, it was too Wesley Crusher-ish for me.

    Overall I go with Scotty-I liked how he doubled as the 3rd officer, and he had great lines. Laforge knew his engines, but Scotty was in love with them.
  19. MacLeod

    MacLeod Admiral Admiral

    Mar 8, 2001
    Great Britain
    Wasn't Scotty 2nd Officer, 3rd in Command?
  20. Ronald Held

    Ronald Held Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Feb 21, 2005
    On the USS Sovereign
    Scotty due to longivity in his career and his skills. How many engineering requirements are attributable to him?