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Best Dad in Trek

As I mentioned in the other thread, its a Borg Queen running the show, not a Borg King. Down with the cyber-patriarchy!
hey maybe the Borg King is behind the scenes making breakfast, cleaning out the baby-compartments, making sure everyone gets their learning downloads for the day..
 
I'm gonna tell my younger sister that she's real lucky I didn't exert my right to erase her memory. ;)

In Klingon society, it has been established that the elder son speaks for the House. (Kurn said this in "Sins of The Father", which was why he sought Worf to begin with.)

With what happened in "SONS OF MOGH", Worf essentially had power of attorney over Kurn. I know some people question Bashir going along with this, but two reasons stick in my mind why he did.

First, he already healed him from a suicide attempt by that point... twice. Once from the ritual, later for letting himself get shot. A suicidal person that dead set on dying will find a way to get killed, sooner or later.

Second, Bashir respected Klingon culture and laws. He also never imposed his own views onto patients. (Actually, this is my reason for why he is my favorite of all the doctors. More than any of the others, except maybe for Phlox, he kept his own sense of morality out of patient treatments. This is precisely why Crusher ranks as my least favorite of the franchise... see TNG's 'Ethics".)

Given that Worf admitted he couldn't go through with the ritual again, it was really the only option left.

And honestly, the person who is really at fault for coming up with this idea is Dax. Worf simply took the option he was presented with.
 
hey maybe the Borg King is behind the scenes making breakfast, cleaning out the baby-compartments, making sure everyone gets their learning downloads for the day..
I suppose by that point, in those faraway more-enlightened days, that's probably incredibly likely.

But I can also imagine him getting grief from the Borg Queen because he moved some Borg alcoves to there when she told him very clearly she wanted them there (she didn't).

Because some things don't change.
 
Kirk wasn't the best dad.

But he was the coolest.

I read somewhere Spock's dad could beat up Data's dad

Sisko was the coolest dad. He cooked. He sang. He played piano. He went toe to toe with many Klingons. He led entire fleets in the Dominion War. He basically became a god.

I love Kirk, too... but Sisko was definitely the coolest.


Regarding Noonian Soong... I feel like a tribble could beat him up, let alone a Vulcan with several times the strength of a human. :hugegrin:
 
hey maybe the Borg King is behind the scenes making breakfast, cleaning out the baby-compartments, making sure everyone gets their learning downloads for the day..
Ain't no Borg King. That's why they got drones & not pawns. The minute they get a king, then they gotta have knights & rooks. It's a whole ordeal.
 
In my opinion, Worf knows as well as we do that Kurn would not have agreed to erasing his mind and making him live as some new guy. Regardless of right to do so, I still deem it the move of a shitty brother.

We don't really know that, but all evidence in the episode points to Kurn likely going for it.

As he was, Kurn had no house, no standing among Klingons, and was an outcast. His life was over, as far as he saw it. The procedure gave him the ability to be an honorable Klingon again and to live in the empire.

Kurn always wanted to serve the empire and live there and be an honorable Klingon. This was the only way he could do that. Given everything he said and did in "SONS OF MOGH", I believe he would have gone for it.
 
When it comes to Worf, you have to consider his origins. In most scenerios, he's really just trying to find the easiest & fastest reset button back to the status quo. What else should you expect from a TNG guy? :p
 
Don't. I'm not over that episode yet

After that hard drop-kick in the guts that was "Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach", Rukiya was a cakewalk.

hey maybe the Borg King is behind the scenes making breakfast, cleaning out the baby-compartments, making sure everyone gets their learning downloads for the day..

And driving the carpool in his cubical minivan?

I read somewhere Spock's dad could beat up Data's dad

Sarek would just pinch him off to sleep. Who do you think taught the move to Spock?

When it comes to Worf, you have to consider his origins. In most scenerios, he's really just trying to find the easiest & fastest reset button back to the status quo. What else should you expect from a TNG guy.

Worf might have fit right in on "Voyager", AKA "Reset Button Central".
 
...and while everybody was saying here that Worf was such an awful father, his quest to stop Kahless led him to fight Alexander to the death. Oh, crap...

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Star Trek #11, by IDW Publishing. Of course, it's not canon, but the timing couldn't have been worse.
 
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It the "most distant dad contest", Worf doesn't even compare to Tuvok
Or Kirk or McCoy

Clearly, he was decent, if the Prime Timeline is an indicator. Both his boys did well for themselves.
Based on Sam assessment he seems like a hard father to please, George looks down on his career path because his son, Sam is not command track. Kirk is the favored one. Kirk senior sounds like a human Sarek.
 
Sam may be a bit biased in that respect.

I mean, we HAVE met George Kirk Sr. (in ST09) Does he look like somebody who would look down on one of his sons because they didn't follow the same career path he did?

I think Sam was just a bit jealous of his brother. Not maliciously so, just a little bit.

Like in Sam's last appearance in SNW. Jim is already first officer of the Farragut and I think that kind of bugged Sam a bit. So that's why they argued like that.

It really only bubbles over when the brothers are together. When they're secure in their separate duty assignments, it's fine, but when they MEET, they can't help but snipe at each other.
 
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Sam may be a bit biased in that respect.

I mean, we HAVE met George Kirk Sr. (in ST09) Does he look like somebody who would look down on one of his sons because they didn't follow the same career path he did?

I think Sam was just a bit jealous of his brother. Not maliciously so, just a little bit.
Different universe, plus the children were still young in 2258 Kelvinverse
 
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