Kind of defeats the point of puerile humour then, no? Confining the kind of stupid vulgarity only an eight year old will find funny to the purview of adults seems self-defeating. It's the kind of logic behind Bakshi's films.
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Kind of defeats the point of puerile humour then, no? Confining the kind of stupid vulgarity only an eight year old will find funny to the purview of adults seems self-defeating. It's the kind of logic behind Bakshi's films.
Maybe, but it seems to me that a great deal of what purports to be "adult" material, like today's R-rated comedy movies, is loaded with extremely juvenile content. Maturity is more a state of mind than a quantity of years.
And I disagree that all childrens' humor must be vulgar or crude or mean-spirited. Children can enjoy more innocuous forms of humor as well, like puns or silly situations. The use of "puerile" as an insult should not be taken too literally.
I've only seen it a couple of times but it seems like a decent enough show. I'm more familiar with Cartoon Network and the show would seem to have a lot of antecedents like Kids Next Door, Ed Edd and Eddy, Johnny Test and Dexter's Lab for example.
It seems very nice-spirited and non-bratty which is nice. I don't think all shows need to be that way but it's nice that there's still a place for such.
It seems very nice-spirited and non-bratty which is nice. I don't think all shows need to be that way but it's nice that there's still a place for such.
This sort of thing has always been true. Back in the 70s, we had underground comix that were labeled "For Adults Only."
And where is Kegg claiming that? Seems to me he's just saying children enjoy (and, indeed, may be the only ones who are immature enough to enjoy) "puerile" jokes. He's not saying anything about kids and other types of humor.
Nonsense. The children don't need exposure to such crass material. I wouldn't let my boy watch South Park or Ren and Stimpy. He's doing fine with P&F, Ben 10 and the Penguins...
^Hold on, I wasn't endorsing it, just describing the current state of affairs. A lot of kids' shows these days seem to consider it obligatory to throw in grossout humor involving various bodily secretions, flatulence, and the like. I can't even stand to watch The Super Hero Squad Show because there's so much of that material in it.
I wouldn't presume to judge parents for applying their own standards to their children's viewing, but what I'm saying is that broadcast standards of what's considered permissible in children's shows have clearly undergone a massive change since the 1970s.
I wouldn't presume to judge parents for applying their own standards to their children's viewing, but what I'm saying is that broadcast standards of what's considered permissible in children's shows have clearly undergone a massive change since the 1970s.
Indeed.
My favourite cartoon as a kid was the Simpsons, by pretty much a landslide. I watched the odd episode of Ren & Stimpy, but I was never that fond of the program.
I just couldn't imagine why I'd want to watch it now, though I'd still be more than happy to rewatch the many Simpsons episodes I saw in the 1990s. Ren & Stimpy is very much a kid's show.
And a lot of R-rated comedies - none of which I think I've actually seen, I'm going by the trailers here - appear to be marketed to adolescents.
My point, which I expressed poorly, was that calling something puerile humor doesn't literally mean it will only be liked by children. There are clearly plenty of adults who enjoy crude and immature humor -- otherwise there's no way Mike Myers, for instance, could've ever become popular -- just as there are children who don't. Being young and being puerile are not automatically synonymous.
Sure. Just like there are probably men who are big fans of chick flicks, and so on. Stuff tracks, and all that.
The comments about crude behavior or language reminds me of when we had our sixth graders watch Apollo 13 last March. We skipped over the first scene where we see Kevin Bacon's character explain how the lunar modules attach together after taking off from Earth with a glass and a beer bottle with his latest girl. It was very sensual even though the kids probably wouldn't realize it.
Oh, and the kids giggled and went "OHHHH! He said_______!!!" every time someone (usually Ed Harris' character, Gene) swore.
Oh, and the kids giggled and went "OHHHH! He said_______!!!" every time someone (usually Ed Harris' character, Gene) swore.
Sadly, you may be right. Nowadays, it's a busy job policing what your kids watch.
I've seen an episode or two. I laughed at least so that's more than I can say for most things on Cartoon Network or Disney nowadays. I can't say I'd make a habit of watching it regularly, though. I however, tend to prefer the Japanese variety of animation. Out of the current season my favorites are:
Blue Exorcist
Deadman Wonderland
Steins Gate
The first one is a bit too intense and grim for small children, the second one is most definitely not suitable for children, and the 3rd one children wouldn't have the attention span for, so I couldn't be of any help with current suggestions.
Although all 3 of those can be found legally simulcasted in English here,that is if you're not region-locked out of it.
Blue Exorcist
Deadman Wonderland
Steins Gate
The first one is a bit too intense and grim for small children, the second one is most definitely not suitable for children, and the 3rd one children wouldn't have the attention span for, so I couldn't be of any help with current suggestions.
Although all 3 of those can be found legally simulcasted in English here,that is if you're not region-locked out of it.
A streaming site that doesn't block Canadians? I'm shocked.
I've been watching too many Shounens recently, so I am in the mood for something a little more mature. I'll have to check out your recommendations.
Given the various recommendations I've seen online, I decided to check this show out (particularly once I discovered that the awesome Tara Strong played the lead character). It is fairly entertaining in a harmless kind of way, and the characters are pretty fun. (I especially like Fluttershy, being shy myself, and Pinkie Pie is fun for being just the opposite, a creature of complete abandon and unfettered enthusiasm.) It's kind of bizarre in a way, like, how can they build a civilization without opposable thumbs? Do the telekinetic unicorns do all the work? But I guess those absurdities are part of the fun.
My main problem with it is a certain anti-intellectual sentiment -- whenever Twilight Sparkle (I can't believe I just typed that name with a straight, err, face) tries to apply scholarship or science to a problem, she's portrayed as being narrowminded and she has to learn the lesson to let go of her intellectual approach and go with her feelings. That's regrettably one-sided. If this show is aimed at young girls, it should be encouraging them to value science and math and scholarship, because there are already way too many messages in our culture indoctrinating girls with the false belief that those things are for men only. Twilight's intellect and the others' emotions should be shown as equally valuable and supplementing one another.
^^ That's true. It's worse for girls, but the "turn off the computer and use the Force, Luke" message is pretty much omnipresent in society.
Garfield & Friends was also good.