Bessie

[Skellington]

How would Smith get it out of the doors? It was all very well in the old show where the outer Tardis doors were part of the illusion, but now the reTardis of the new show has the silly Cushing-styles that are genuinely police box doors on the inside.

Well, if Ten has pockets that are dimensionally transcendental and Nine once joked to Rose about being Santa, maybe the Doctor has a dimensionally transcendental sack or other foldable item.

In "An Unearthly Child", when the Doctor opens the doors to the TARDIS after their first journey with Barbara and Ian, the doors are clearly part of the same construction as the rest of the ship. As they swung inwards, from inside the control room interior, the outside face of the doors were covered with the same distinctive roundels as the inside. Yet when everyone went out to have a look and the doors closed, the outside of the doors looked like they belonged on a police box.

From inside the TARDIS, the doors appeared to be Timelord technology, but once you were outside, they appeared different! It was a neat little gag.

The show kept that nonsense up until well into the Tom Baker era. Viewed from the interior the location was visible and characters could just run in and out, whereas viewed from the exterior they had to open one of the doors. (However, the Monk's TARDIS in The Time Meddler does actually show the exterior from the console room.) By the late Baker / early Davision days it did appear that there was some kind of threshold between the exterior and front interior doors, and passing through it transferred you to or from the "real" universe. I was a little unsure of the police-box-visible-from-inside approach of the 2005 series, as it seemed to go against what I though of as the nature of the TARDIS; two separate objects, one of which was in a separate continuum to the other. However, imo the current system actually works better than the original setup even if it is reminiscent of those godawful Dalek movies.

 

[The]

I don't think it has to be either/or, as well. There are multiple console rooms in the TARDIS. I like to think of the Coral/Toy Store one as Console Room #5.

 

[jbny67]

Works for me. We don't know what happened to it after Battlefield and I wouldn't be at all surprised if The Seventh Doctor decided to take Bessie with him.

I always thought he left it with the Brigadier.

 

[Skellington]

Eleven's TARDIS could probably fabricate a Bessie if he wanted one, anyway.

 

[The]

You know, I'm of the mind that the TARDIS received an upgrade during the Time War, and that any erratic nature or whatever now is a result of damage from the war. That would explain why it can do all the new things like replicating a Sonic Screwdriver and the like...

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

It would've been cool if Sarah Jane had in her garage in one episode.

 

[Skellington]

You know, I'm of the mind that the TARDIS received an upgrade during the Time War, and that any erratic nature or whatever now is a result of damage from the war. That would explain why it can do all the new things like replicating a Sonic Screwdriver and the like...

It might also explain things like the 100-trillion-year trips and the planet-pulling. Prior to Victory Of The Daleks I had wondered if it was still a Type 40.

 

[The]

You know, I'm of the mind that the TARDIS received an upgrade during the Time War, and that any erratic nature or whatever now is a result of damage from the war. That would explain why it can do all the new things like replicating a Sonic Screwdriver and the like...

It might also explain things like the 100-trillion-year trips and the planet-pulling. Prior to Victory Of The Daleks I had wondered if it was still a Type 40.

Totally. I think it's still the same Type40 TARDIS he "borrowed" from Gallifrey in the beginning. But, it's had some serious upgrades...kind of like the Enterprise from TOS to the Motion Picture...

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

You know, I'm of the mind that the TARDIS received an upgrade during the Time War, and that any erratic nature or whatever now is a result of damage from the war. That would explain why it can do all the new things like replicating a Sonic Screwdriver and the like...

It might also explain things like the 100-trillion-year trips and the planet-pulling. Prior to Victory Of The Daleks I had wondered if it was still a Type 40.

Totally. I think it's still the same Type40 TARDIS he "borrowed" from Gallifrey in the beginning. But, it's had some serious upgrades...kind of like the Enterprise from TOS to the Motion Picture...

It would also explain the more organic nature of the TARDIS we've seen.

I know there has always been mention of it being alive, but it never looked organic.

 

[The]

In my head and imagination, when the 8th Doctor detonated Gallifrey's sun and collapsed their black hole (or whatever), he was in the TARDIS, in space. The TARDIS is engulfed in the destruction, the interior exploding from the shockwave. The Doctor, possibly already wounded, never expected he and the ship to survive. He regenerates, collapses, and the Police Box floats dark and silent in the void of space for a while. After that, he probably transferred from his old steampunk console room (which is now in pieces) to this alternate version. This version happens to have no holo-tech coating the walls in familiar white roundels. Instead, this organic console room looks like some kind of back-up, auxiliary console. Simplified in its own way, just like its hardwood/stainglassed counterpart from the 70's, except with the modern benefit of some metal grating and a budget...

 

[Cutter John]

Hmmm...maybe they have to sneak into UNIT headquarters, and they only way they can find to escape is a dusty old yellow roadster they find in a lower parking garage?

In my head and imagination, when the 8th Doctor detonated Gallifrey's sun and collapsed their black hole (or whatever), he was in the TARDIS, in space. The TARDIS is engulfed in the destruction, the interior exploding from the shockwave. The Doctor, possibly already wounded, never expected he and the ship to survive. He regenerates, collapses, and the Police Box floats dark and silent in the void of space for a while. After that, he probably transferred from his old steampunk console room (which is now in pieces) to this alternate version. This version happens to have no holo-tech coating the walls in familiar white roundels. Instead, this organic console room looks like some kind of back-up, auxiliary console. Simplified in its own way, just like its hardwood/stainglassed counterpart from the 70's, except with the modern benefit of some metal grating and a budget...

Or maybe he only just figured out how to change the desktop theme?

 

[The]

^ True. Or that.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

Also regarding Bessie, we know that UNIT has at least one storehouse for alien ships and gizmos they've collected over the years. Bessie could be in one of them, along with the Whomobile. With all the fun stuff the Doctor had packed into them, they would hardly be secure in the HQ car park waiting for the Doc to happen by...

Mark

 

[Robert D. Robot]

Any chance the portal/door could be put on a setting that would dimensionally compress (with no ill effect) a large object moving into the portal and "fluidly" restore it on the other side?

It would be a cool warping effect to see the leading end of something like a car (or an elephant!) hit the open doorway, squeeze down to a constriction the size of the doorway and then be restored on the other side (like an hourglass shape).

The Doctor could momentarily rearrange the interior so that the door was connected to the room (garage?) where the vehicle could be stored.

I think this would be kind of neat, but -to be honest- I am not so sure that I would like the TARDIS to be shown having this ability (although there is no reason to believe that this is simply a capability that has never been shown before).

How else would bulky supplies, components, and other large objects get placed inside a Type 40 TT Capsule (especially in locations where the ship is far from other Time Lord technology/outposts)?

Of course, there was at least one episode where the TARDIS materialized around an object (the Master's TARDIS disguised as another Police Box!), bringing the object "inside".....

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Any chance the portal/door could be put on a setting that would dimensionally compress (with no ill effect) a large object moving into the portal and "fluidly" restore it on the other side?

It would be a cool warping effect to see the leading end of something like a car (or an elephant!) hit the open doorway, squeeze down to a constriction the size of the doorway and then be restored on the other side (like an hourglass shape).

The Doctor could momentarily rearrange the interior so that the door was connected to the room (garage?) where the vehicle could be stored.

I think this would be kind of neat, but -to be honest- I am not so sure that I would like the TARDIS to be shown having this ability (although there is no reason to believe that this is simply a capability that has never been shown before).

How else would bulky supplies, components, and other large objects get placed inside a Type 40 TT Capsule (especially in locations where the ship is far from other Time Lord technology/outposts)?

Of course, there was at least one episode where the TARDIS materialized around an object (the Master's TARDIS disguised as another Police Box!), bringing the object "inside".....

I would think a working chameleon circuit would accomplish these things. It could be turned into a garage if they wanted to put a car into it.

As far as a TARDIS within a TARDIS, that's just some trans-dimensional shit I can't even wrap my head around, though they might have explained it in Logopolis.

 

[Robert D. Robot]

^ Good point! I actually sometimes forget how the Doctor's TARDIS is operating at somewhat less than full potential!