Starborn Dragon
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It's the article posted by T'Bonz in Trek Today Headlines. I thought it'd be obvious that is what I was referring to.
Berman Was Inflexible?
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It's the article posted by T'Bonz in Trek Today Headlines. I thought it'd be obvious that is what I was referring to.
Starborn Dragon
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Dax was a beloved and poplar character, that's why.
That article has now fallen off the list of headlines on the side. Someone else already provided the link, so it's all good.
The story potential for killing off Jadzia was richer for the show, than a part-time Jadzia.
It's funny how a grateful actor gets a big break by being hired by a series and getting steady employment, fame, and wealth--then years later ditches the show, and helps cause that show damage.
Example- Topher Grace/ Ashton Kutcher on "That 70's Show", Ron Howard on "Happy Days".
Sometimes a show keeps on going, like John Nettles on "Midsomer Murders".
Sometimes they end a show like Ted Danson wanting to quit "Cheers".
Terry Farrell gave Berman story possibilities, being a sci-fi series. I suggest she was.more "burned out" on Deep Space Nine--because she was right back on TV with "Becker".
It's funny how a grateful actor gets a big break by being hired by a series and getting steady employment, fame, and wealth--then years later ditches the show, and helps cause that show damage.
Example- Topher Grace/ Ashton Kutcher on "That 70's Show", Ron Howard on "Happy Days".
Sometimes a show keeps on going, like John Nettles on "Midsomer Murders".
Sometimes they end a show like Ted Danson wanting to quit "Cheers".
Terry Farrell gave Berman story possibilities, being a sci-fi series. I suggest she was.more "burned out" on Deep Space Nine--because she was right back on TV with "Becker".
Berman had often a positive influence on the franchise, but some things are questionable. Clearly, focusing on the films and the network negatively affected DS9. I also wonder about his relationship with the creative staff: why so many writers left after 1998 and why Behr was so adversarial when Berman offered to hand over Enterprise after season two?
Starborn Dragon
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Actually I think it helped set a cliche in motion.
If someone is happy then something really bad will happen to ruin it.
Not joking. I've seen that a number of times now in some other shows. Unfortunately I can't think of them at the moment.
But, when there's a show that is all about angst, the rule is, no one can be happy. so something bad must happen, especially if they are really happy.
Although Jadzia's death like this was the first time I'd seen this cliche and didn't know it was one at the time.
And lo0ng running shows tend to burn people out and they want want to go on and do something different.
There should be nothing wrong with that.
Honestly, I mean, running a franchise like Star Trek for nearly two decades has got to be bad for the back. That Berman was thus inflexible should come as little surprise.
I think you'd be surprised about how little wealth there was involved for the DS9 Cast.
It's not until you're on the inside that you loose your naïveté and begin to understand how others might take advantage of that until you take control of your own life and your own self worth, and those who might exploit you for their own selfish gain, which is then expressed by an ironic projection from those in power that the formerly naïve are trying to control and take advantage of those in power rather than those in power expressing appreciation to the talent they found, developed and promoted. Instead, those in power want fealty, maybe like a pimp.
Wow, thanks for this information, I had no idea for sure.
I would equate zapping Jadzia to an instant, undignified and meaningless death with running a train over and then dropping a piano on Charlie Sheen's character in Two and a Half Men.
In other words, sheer animosity and malice by the showrunners, forcing their malevolent will and control upon the actor's character.
In other words, sheer animosity and malice by the showrunners, forcing their malevolent will and control upon the actor's character.
According to Terry Farrell herself, her negotiations were entirely with Rick Berman. Ira Steven Behr was not aware of the collapse of those negotiations until very late, probably as late as mid March (around four weeks before Tears of the Prophets was shot).
Speak to the post - not the poster. Isn't that the policy here? Please don't assign or assume any particular personal attributes to me that pretend to speak on my behalf about how I feel.
I write of story choices - not contract negotiations.
I suppose you are saying that Behr was unaware that Terry Farrell would not renew her contract or that there was animosity. How would that scene come about if there was not an awareness? I did read where Behr said so, and I would tend to believe it. So I'm wondering who was in control of the story/script at that point.
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Funny. That is exactly what you're doing to a group of people you've never met nor interacted with in any serious manner on a show you never worked for.
So maybe take your own advice?
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When I wrote "until very late," I was not writing in vain. Everything I wrote comes from Farrell's appearance at Toronto Comicon 2015. She says explicitly that Behr was kept in the dark about the negotiations--that he had every reason to believe that she would return--and that months had past from when she began going on auditions to the point at which Behr was informed. The DS9 Companion shows that the plot of Tears of the Prophets was something Behr and the writers had worked on extensively: he wanted something that dealt with Dukat interfering in Sisko's relationship with the Prophets. Dax's death was a late addition.
Here's a simple case where people ought to show a little appreciation for the talent that helps realize their own ambitions. But noooooooooooo....
It takes two to tango, and one can understand both sides. From an actors point of view, it was only a one year extension it would be perfectly reasonable to see if you could get a role on another show which might lead to another few years of employment. As for burn out isn't reasonable well known that TV shoots can have long days 5 or 6 days a week which can lead to burnout, but that's the same for other jobs. If you've held the same job for years there can be days when you are tired of that Job.
If you are offered a job and the employer isn't willing to negotiate the terms (which they don't have to) then you either accept the terms as they are or walk away. And in a TV/film production some characters and by extension their actor will be more pivotal than others and hence can be in a stronger negotating position.
If you are offered a job and the employer isn't willing to negotiate the terms (which they don't have to) then you either accept the terms as they are or walk away. And in a TV/film production some characters and by extension their actor will be more pivotal than others and hence can be in a stronger negotating position.
Whilst not the reason for the exit, I always thought that (even think I loved the character and had quite a thing for Farrell in my teens) she had to die for dramatic reasons.... She married Worf so one of then had to go (pretty much law on television isn't it 
) and it wasn't going to be him!
I think the more disappointing thing about the situation was not being able to negotiate stock footage if her for the montage in the finale. I always find it disappointing not to see her in that.
) and it wasn't going to be him!I think the more disappointing thing about the situation was not being able to negotiate stock footage if her for the montage in the finale. I always find it disappointing not to see her in that.
I never even noticed she wasn't there. But then it took me a decade to revisit the show after it was over. So I obviously wasn't too attached to it overall.
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