Ben Shapiro Reviews The Rise of The Skywalker

[Awesome Possum]

This is the excuse for a poor argument, is it? Your adherence to a flawed ideology, ignorance to neurological science and discrediting nonsense of cults and confidence? How odd.

There needs to be evidence for me to ignore evidence. You’ve provided theories based on MRI interpretations while you evade empirical biology and neuroscience. Even the studies that you’ve linked to highlight the flaws openly in their own papers, all while you tell me what kind of person I am; that conveniently omits your need to make a valid point.

Take the DSMV. You feature one of numerous recommendations as the primary course of action without referring to increasing detransition rates or that the purpose is to address psychological impact of gender dysphoria- not validate the theory of transgenderism. The DSMV also categorises ASD into 12 memogroups that are for mainstream assessment of welfare and not definition of the disorder, genetic, neurological or otherwise.

There are questions to be asked. It’s not just a competition of links and personal jibes. The neurological features of these studies are based on sexual awareness in neuronic scans, particularly the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis. This fluctuates with anxiety and has no solid evidence of association with gender. Do you have information regarding synapse indications that establish this to support your claim? No? Do you have evidence to support the overwhelming data of the non-gendered brain? No?

Do you in fact have anything to contribute beyond opinions on how sociological theory applies and political application is active through the AMA? I thought so.

It’s all melodramatic posturing and patronising neotony. Read your sources and realise what they are saying. These studies you offer need to present more than confirmation bias to be used to assert your claim. I’m happy to accept if I’m wrong. Can you?

I'm not seeing proof, you're just trying to dismiss actual evidence because you disagree with it. Is this what you consider to be a compelling argument? You literally wasted time writing "I reject your reality and substitute my own" because you just assumed you could get a rise out of me. Debate the articles and provide actual evidence of any of your assertions instead of talking around your complete lack of scientific backing and trying to claim you won because you think you're right.

 

[Ocanain]

I'm not seeing proof, you're just trying to dismiss actual evidence because you disagree with it. Is this what you consider to be a compelling argument? You literally wasted time writing "I reject your reality and substitute my own" because you just assumed you could get a rise out of me. Debate the articles and provide actual evidence of any of your assertions instead of talking around your complete lack of scientific backing and trying to claim you won because you think you're right.

This evasion is unnecessary.
I am debating the articles and I posed some of the questioning elements very clearly including the approach of the DSMV, the source of neurological theory and the fact that the studies you offer highlight these flaws. These platitudes and personal attacks are just superfluous nonsense.

I have highlighted flaws in the studies so can you answer those criticisms or can you not? It’s as simple as that. If there are points in those studies that you feel nullify my points, by all means mention them and I’ll retort but this minimalist approach of attack and divert isn’t going anywhere.

 

[Ocanain]

Shapiro is an idiot. And I realize that's an insult to the world's distinguished idiots.

He's overrated even for a conservative blowhard.

Name one idiotic thing he has ever said.

 

[Awesome Possum]

This evasion is unnecessary.
I am debating the articles and I posed some of the questioning elements very clearly including the approach of the DSMV, the source of neurological theory and the fact that the studies you offer highlight these flaws. These platitudes and personal attacks are just superfluous nonsense.

I have highlighted flaws in the studies so can you answer those criticisms or can you not? It’s as simple as that. If there are points in those studies that you feel nullify my points, by all means mention them and I’ll retort but this minimalist approach of attack and divert isn’t going anywhere.

I'm going to need more than your "good word" to debunk decades of science. Like any proof and since you clearly need to be told this, your assertions are not proof. Pointing out that you're wrong is not a personal attack and it's pretty clear that you are not posting in good faith. You're trying to push beliefs and an ideology that tries to justify bigotry and denial of basic rights to an entire class of people while trying to cloak yourself in science. You expose yourself by just dismissing actual science and continuing to argue that we should reject doctors, experts, and scientists and listen to you and your hero an internet famous rightwing talking head. Neither of whom seem to have any medical degrees or even basic knowledge of concepts beyond a grade school understanding.

 

[cooleddie74]

Name one idiotic thing he has ever said.

Ben Shapiro: [Opens mouth during Trump Presidency]

 

[Awesome Possum]

There's this stupid thing he said.

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He's such a joke.

 

[Ocanain]

I'm going to need more than your "good word" to debunk decades of science. Like any proof and since you clearly need to be told this, your assertions are not proof. Pointing out that you're wrong is not a personal attack and it's pretty clear that you are not posting in good faith. You're trying to push beliefs and an ideology that tries to justify bigotry and denial of basic rights to an entire class of people while trying to cloak yourself in science. You expose yourself by just dismissing actual science and continuing to argue that we should reject doctors, experts, and scientists and listen to you and your hero an internet famous rightwing talking head. Neither of whom seem to have any medical degrees or even basic knowledge of concepts beyond a grade school understanding.

Here we are again with evasion and nonsense.

You’re right at least in saying that your claim that I’m wrong is not a personal attack. I was actually referring to the personal attacks.

My assertions highlight the fallibilities of the theories that you are offering therefore simply evading those questions illustrate that you are ill equipped to incorporate those criticisms into your presented argument. At the same time I have presented you with the scientific support of ungendered brain theory that destabilises the transgender argument in addition to further studies (one of which came from a source that you also used but when it came from me, you labelled it a right wing think tank).

These generic terms you’re using serve no purpose. Terms like ‘actual science’ or ‘bigotry’ don’t empirically make any scientific claims. Furthermore this blanket statement that I’m rejecting scientists and doctors is entirely inaccurate as I’m illustrating the flaws in the studies themselves- studies that the experts you’re referencing also refer to the theoretical correlations yet you see as proof.

The deal with your friend Shapiro is that he doesn’t just give his opinion either. He puts forth a view and quotes the findings of the studies and experts to support his claim. The difference is he reads them. The studies you offer are ‘gotcha’ links that you have not read more than a summary of and while I have extensive insight to neuroscience and genomics and have applied that here, you are persistent in evasion and ideology that takes the place of informed natures.

Nothing I have said refers to any ideology at all. I challenge you to suggest otherwise where as your assertions are without substance and thriving (to you at least) on ideology alone.

If you wish the studies you’ve offered to stand, explain the flaws or illustrate flaws in what I’ve offered instead of this puerile waste of time.

 

[Awesome Possum]

Here we are again with evasion and nonsense.

You’re right at least in saying that your claim that I’m wrong is not a personal attack. I was actually referring to the personal attacks.

My assertions highlight the fallibilities of the theories that you are offering therefore simply evading those questions illustrate that you are ill equipped to incorporate those criticisms into your presented argument. At the same time I have presented you with the scientific support of ungendered brain theory that destabilises the transgender argument in addition to further studies (one of which came from a source that you also used but when it came from me, you labelled it a right wing think tank).

These generic terms you’re using serve no purpose. Terms like ‘actual science’ or ‘bigotry’ don’t empirically make any scientific claims. Furthermore this blanket statement that I’m rejecting scientists and doctors is entirely inaccurate as I’m illustrating the flaws in the studies themselves- studies that the experts you’re referencing also refer to the theoretical correlations yet you see as proof.

The deal with your friend Shapiro is that he doesn’t just give his opinion either. He puts forth a view and quotes the findings of the studies and experts to support his claim. The difference is he reads them. The studies you offer are ‘gotcha’ links that you have not read more than a summary of and while I have extensive insight to neuroscience and genomics and have applied that here, you are persistent in evasion and ideology that takes the place of informed natures.

Nothing I have said refers to any ideology at all. I challenge you to suggest otherwise where as your assertions are without substance and thriving (to you at least) on ideology alone.

If you wish the studies you’ve offered to stand, explain the flaws or illustrate flaws in what I’ve offered instead of this puerile waste of time.

 

[Ocanain]

Ben Shapiro: [Opens mouth during Trump Presidency]

I asked for something idiotic Shapiro said. That’s something idiotic you’ve said. You’re already on two.

 

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[Ocanain]

There's this stupid thing he said.

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He's such a joke.

There's this stupid thing he said.

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He's such a joke.

There sure is something stupid here but it’s not Shapiro.

 

[Awesome Possum]

I asked for something idiotic Shapiro said. That’s something idiotic you’ve said. You’re already on two.

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More stupid.

 

[Awesome Possum]

There sure is something stupid here but it’s not Shapiro.

Okay, so if your house is underwater who will you sell it to? Do you see how that might be a bit difficult since people buy houses to live in and humans have issues living underwater?

 

[Ocanain]

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More stupid.

Now this I admit is stupid. Of course it’s the only example of it so that’s a touch of a problem for your argument.

 

[Awesome Possum]

Now this I admit is stupid. Of course it’s the only example of it so that’s a touch of a problem for your argument.

That's seems to be an issue with your perception not my arguments. Arguing with you is like arguing with someone in a cult, facts do not matter to you.

Now tell me how I can sell a house that's underwater. Ben seems to know.

 

[Ocanain]

Okay, so if your house is underwater who will you sell it to? Do you see how that might be a bit difficult since people buy houses to live in and humans have issues living underwater?

Even a reasonably intelligent person understands that rising levels are gradual and also that houses are more than the land they are on. Come on now. Anyone not educated by comic books can see these obvious elements. You think that climate change is a tidal wave Monday morning? Wow. Haha

 

[Ocanain]

That's seems to be an issue with your perception not my arguments. Arguing with you is like arguing with someone in a cult, facts do not matter to you.

Now tell me how I can sell a house that's underwater. Ben seems to know.

You haven’t given me an argument yet and my perception is just fine, so fine I see how flawed your position really is. You reply to facts with either evasions or jibes of cults and accusations of bigotry. Do you need me to define cult?

 

[Ocanain]

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Another fail. What else have you got?

 

[Awesome Possum]

You haven’t given me an argument yet and my perception is just fine, so fine I see how flawed your position really is. You reply to facts with either evasions or jibes of cults and accusations of bigotry. Do you need me to define cult?

No, I posted evidence from respected medical institutions. You claimed they didn’t count because you didn’t believe it. Everyone here can read it. You’re not trying to have a real debate you’re trying to troll and push bullshit. You are not the first to post like this and you won’t be the last. It’s tiresome because you all say the same thing and all try to get insulted so they can play the victim. I’m not giving you what you want so we’re having this endless cycle of Rabbit Season Duck Season because you don’t know how to bail out of this crash and keep digging yourself deeper. You’re not good at this, go try Twitter you’ll get more bites that way.

 

[Ocanain]

No wonder Shapiro finds it so easy to debunk left wing ideology. This discussion (for lack of a better word) really shows how so many leftist arguments are uniformed, flawed and driven by negative emotional outburst. Let’s trace the path of this discussion- You started on defensive and spite with no foundation. From there you rejected my premise and source, presented me with same source, evaded the premise, threw in a few appeals to authority and returned to the degrading outbursts. Then I highlighted flaws in your arguments and studies. You evaded that too and continued with the puerile personal criticisms followed by some testy guesses at my motivations and then posted some videos. Funnily enough the videos highlighted not just the stupidity of the ones presenting them but you followed up by reinforcing their daftness and here we are. No wonder the left is in so much trouble. I can’t help but find this hilarious.