Behind the scenes of Series 6 two parter + DWM covers

[Samurai8472]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k_WotuXTkE


Behind the scenes of the first two parter

Steven Moffat tells DWM:

We're not lying, we're not cheating: one of those four people is going to die! When I came up with this heart-wrenching twist, I thought "We'll kill off one of the leads in the season opener." It lures you in.

 

[wamdue]

Dont we already know who dies, the hat.

 

[captcalhoun]

he said 'people'.

it's got to be a trick. we know they're all alive later in the season - or in River's case later in her life.

 

[Worf2DS9]

I definitely plan to get the Amy cover if I can.

On a somewhat related note, when is the new US-based Doctor Who Insider magazine supposed to come out? Is it this week?

 

[Allyn Gibson]

It's out in comic shops this week. On Gallifrey Base, people are reporting that it's already available at B&N and Borders locations nationwide.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

"Rory Pond"

 

[Samurai8472]

Interesting that everyone has hash marks and not just Amy and River.

 

[Lonemagpie]

Interesting that everyone has hash marks and not just Amy and River.

Makes you wonder if one of them is actually a fake, shapeshifter kind of thing. Or indeed, if they all are, with a hashmarked shifter becoming all of them at some point in the story and then getting killed.

 

[WillsBabe]

Doc looks hot on that cover. Not just temperature wise, either.

 

[TiberiusMaximus]

"Rory Pond"

Made me laugh, too.

 

[Kelso]

The obvious answer is that

Spoiler: speculation on the person that dies

the ragged-out, bearded, future Doctor from the promos

will be the one to bite it.

 

[Starkers]

Dont we already know who dies, the hat.

The poor, poor hat

 

[Bones2]

Assuming it's not a horrendous cheat (which it obviously will be), then it'll be Rory. Even though I'd love it to be Amy. Killing off future beardy Doctor will be a cheat, and after all the attempted "Who is she? Isn't she interesting? WoooooOOOOOoooo...!" with River, they're not going to give her the shove so early. That leaves Rory and Amy, and we're meant to love Amy more than Rory, so it'd be him who dies.

Even though he probably won't.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Killing off future beardy Doctor will be a cheat...

Would it really be, though?

I have a friend who was so utterly pissed off about the Doctor's line about 507 regenerations in "The Death of the Doctor" that I swear she was going to spit nails. It wasn't the casual disregard of the "rule of 13" that everyone knows. It's that 507 is so far away from where we are today that the show will never reach 507 Doctors. 507 took away an endpoint for her. She wanted a final Doctor, because she wanted a look at what the Doctor will do and what the Doctor will become if he knows that his permanent death is a very real possibility.

Assuming the bearded Doctor is a future Doctor, and not a clone Doctor or a shapeshifter pretending to be the Doctor, killing him would give my friend exactly what she wants. We have an endpoint -- the eleventh Doctor dies and he doesn't regenerate -- and we know it's going to happen, and what does the Doctor do when faced with that knowledge? That he really and truly is mortal?

That's territory that Doctor Who hasn't mined before.

If that's the story Moffat wants to tell, I see the obvious out. "Time can be rewritten." Moffat has been setting up that story -- first in "Flesh and Stone," then "The Big Bang," and then "A Christmas Carol." Why keep hammering away at that idea, that time can be rewritten, if he's not going to use it? It's Chekhov's gun on the mantelpiece.

Can the Doctor rewrite his own life and avoid his fate?

If I were Moffat, that's what I'd do. Kill a future Doctor.

 

[Starkers]

^Yeah but the BBC aren't going to like that

Or would time have to be rewritten again?

I do agree that the time can be rewritten line has meaning...but I think it's to do with River...

 

[StCoop]

Why keep hammering away at that idea, that time can be rewritten, if he's not going to use it? It's Chekhov's gun on the mantelpiece.

Nah, it's Voyager's Reset Button. Lazy writing of the highest order. Do whatever you like because you can just undo it in the end. Like you can lock the Doctor up "forever" in an unescapable box only to have him escape five minutes later by cheating.

 

[Mr Awe]

Can the Doctor rewrite his own life and avoid his fate?

If I were Moffat, that's what I'd do. Kill a future Doctor.

Killing the Doctor but having him rewrite his fate *IS* a cheat. It may be what he's planning but it would be a cheat. And, we know that the BBC would not allow a permanent death for the Dr at this point.

Mr Awe

 

[TiberiusMaximus]

You guys are talking as if there are actual RULES involved in writing a TV series...there really aren't. There are conventions and expectations and cliches, but no rules that can be 'cheated'. Granted, there are 'rules' present in fan's expectations and if they're 'broken', you might lose fans, but in reality anything is possible for the writers.

Don't get me wrong, though, lazy writing is annoying. But in the end, almost every story is predictable, and the enjoyment often comes from seeing HOW things are pulled off, not in pulling off anything truly different. (Of course, the odd time something truly different happens, it's entertaining too.)

More on topic, I am really looking forward to this next season. Like I said above, it'll be interesting to see how this death is pulled off. Whether it will feel like lazy writing or not remains to be seen.

 

[TiberiusMaximus]

Double post, sorry.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Why keep hammering away at that idea, that time can be rewritten, if he's not going to use it? It's Chekhov's gun on the mantelpiece.

Nah, it's Voyager's Reset Button. Lazy writing of the highest order. Do whatever you like because you can just undo it in the end. Like you can lock the Doctor up "forever" in an unescapable box only to have him escape five minutes later by cheating.

Yet, I'd still take Moffat's cheat over Braga's cheat or RTD's cheat, because Moffat tends to play fair with his audience, and he gives the audience enough pieces of the puzzle that a bright person can work it out for themselves. Braga's and RTD's cheats were fiated from the beyond and had no grounding whatsoever.