Perhaps there is a period of unconsciousness, but it is of very short duration, and occurs during that brief moment when, from Barclay's perspective, we see everything get a solid white rather than sparkly. Or perhaps we could just say that it's a matter of editing, and that we simply don't see the few seconds of unconsciousness since there'd be nothing to show at that point except molecules.
Beaming in "Relics"
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if your not looking for a serious answer as to why things don't make sense then refer to this link 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsGWdGhYKtY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsGWdGhYKtY
I'm thinking that it's still a split second. IIRC, those two beaming examples happened in mid-word (as opposed to mid-sentence), but I could be wrong. As opposed to that Barclay episode in which he had time during transport to see, analyze, and act/react, which seems more than a sentence.
Anyway, I chalk up the Relics example to that good ol' fallback, the shield modulation frequency. If weapons can get through shields and they pack far more of a wallop than a transporter beam, I imagine it'd be fairly simple to do that for the transporter in general.
A couple of easy outs:
1) The "beaming through shields" thing is simple to justify by saying that the shields were down. We know that there were a lot of cuts in the scene where the E-D flies from the star to the outer wall; a great many dialogue-specified minutes were compressed into just a few filmed seconds. There could simply have been a cut where the shields of the transport were dropped and the two heroes were beamed out, and then Picard had the torpedoes fired and the camera showed them streaking towards the re-shielded ship and blowing her up.
In other cases where our heroes are accused of beaming through shields, the enemy is typically waiting for his chance to fire at the temporarily unshielded ship. Here, though, no harm would come from briefly dropping the shields; the doors of the Dyson sphere would merely close by a few percent more, but still remain sufficiently open for our hero vessel to barrel roll through.
2) People staying conscious within the transporter beam has always been the preferred option, considering how "transporting" is really done in Star Trek. It consists of two separate shots, after all: "before" and "after". And those two can never feature the character in exactly the same position, not unless the character is computer-animated rather than played by a live actor. So we should always assume that the character can move about while gripped by the transporter beam.
"Gripped by beam" isn't what the associated technobabble suggests, anyway. Transporters are supposed to move the transportee from our realm to another, "phased" one; there is no rule that would say that movement in the phased realm is forbidden. All we know is that movement in that realm can take place through walls, long spans of vacuum, etc. Just like in "The Next Phase"...
However, one established feature of this phasing process is again due to the way "transporting" is filmed: the transportee does freeze for a split second at the end of "before" and at the beginning of "after". Since Scotty was said to have locked the transporter on a special mode that surprised even LaForge, it's not difficult to claim that this mode utilizes that temporary freezing effect to stop Scotty from having a metabolism and losing 75 years' worth of body fat.
3) Starfleet is in the habit of giving away its ships. Or shuttles, at any rate. (And that's a rather high rate!)
Many a plot complication involves the sacrificing of a shuttlecraft, often for the most trivial of reasons. Apparently, this type of hardware doesn't cost anything much, and can be freely expended if it saves even one life, or serves as a convenient distraction, or just plain makes Worf happy with his daily dose of kaboom.
Timo Saloniemi
1) The "beaming through shields" thing is simple to justify by saying that the shields were down. We know that there were a lot of cuts in the scene where the E-D flies from the star to the outer wall; a great many dialogue-specified minutes were compressed into just a few filmed seconds. There could simply have been a cut where the shields of the transport were dropped and the two heroes were beamed out, and then Picard had the torpedoes fired and the camera showed them streaking towards the re-shielded ship and blowing her up.
In other cases where our heroes are accused of beaming through shields, the enemy is typically waiting for his chance to fire at the temporarily unshielded ship. Here, though, no harm would come from briefly dropping the shields; the doors of the Dyson sphere would merely close by a few percent more, but still remain sufficiently open for our hero vessel to barrel roll through.
2) People staying conscious within the transporter beam has always been the preferred option, considering how "transporting" is really done in Star Trek. It consists of two separate shots, after all: "before" and "after". And those two can never feature the character in exactly the same position, not unless the character is computer-animated rather than played by a live actor. So we should always assume that the character can move about while gripped by the transporter beam.
"Gripped by beam" isn't what the associated technobabble suggests, anyway. Transporters are supposed to move the transportee from our realm to another, "phased" one; there is no rule that would say that movement in the phased realm is forbidden. All we know is that movement in that realm can take place through walls, long spans of vacuum, etc. Just like in "The Next Phase"...
However, one established feature of this phasing process is again due to the way "transporting" is filmed: the transportee does freeze for a split second at the end of "before" and at the beginning of "after". Since Scotty was said to have locked the transporter on a special mode that surprised even LaForge, it's not difficult to claim that this mode utilizes that temporary freezing effect to stop Scotty from having a metabolism and losing 75 years' worth of body fat.
3) Starfleet is in the habit of giving away its ships. Or shuttles, at any rate. (And that's a rather high rate!)
Many a plot complication involves the sacrificing of a shuttlecraft, often for the most trivial of reasons. Apparently, this type of hardware doesn't cost anything much, and can be freely expended if it saves even one life, or serves as a convenient distraction, or just plain makes Worf happy with his daily dose of kaboom.
Timo Saloniemi
More importantly, they had already discovered how to open the door, without being pulled in. Why did they need to wedge the Jenolan in there at all, when they could have just kept opening the door from a distance, & sent transmissions to the ENT-D, coordinating an exit?
Wouldn't the tractor beams have locked onto the E-D and pulled her back in? Either because they mistook her for the ship that was wishing to enter, or because the door was configured to prevent exit by the double means of refusing to open and using the beams.
The first of those two possibilities would simply be the standard mode of operations for the door; it could miss the hiding Jenolan but couldn't fail to home in on the much bigger and more visible E-D at close range. The second possibility is a more sinister one, suggesting the masters of the sphere deliberately wanted to prevent ships from exiting for some reason.
Timo Saloniemi
The first of those two possibilities would simply be the standard mode of operations for the door; it could miss the hiding Jenolan but couldn't fail to home in on the much bigger and more visible E-D at close range. The second possibility is a more sinister one, suggesting the masters of the sphere deliberately wanted to prevent ships from exiting for some reason.
Timo Saloniemi
That's sort of what I mean by coordinate though. The ENT-D could have been communicated with, during one instance of opening the door, & then position itself at the door, for a second opening, where they could then wait till the tractor beam shut off, like Geordi & Scotty did, before they went in & wedged themselves in there. Easily enough time to cross through the doors, as they were closing, if there's nothing in the way, once the beams were off
Best theory above. Very plausible.
One of the reasons they should not have brought him back! I was never a fan of Relics and found it incredibly annoying that they gave him a shuttlecraft at the end of the episode. Is Starfleet in the habit of giving away their ships?It kinda reminds me of the time when the Wright brothers came back to life and were given F-16's by the American government!
Loaning a highly respected Starfleet Captain(albeit retired) whilst perhaps a stretch isn't beyond the realms of possibilites.
I think that's a little too flattering an analogy for such a modest shuttlecraft. More like the army giving Karl Benz a jeep.
I think it's something along those lines too. Data could have easily figured out the proper timing needed. Before anything else they would establish a sensor lock on LaForge and Scotty.
Then Data would time, the firing of the torpedoes, the dropping of the Jenolen's shields, transport of LaForge and Scotty and flying through the closing doors.
I might even have been neat to see Scotty and LaForge inside the Jenolen as the Torpedoes are slamming into the hull and the transporter is beaming them out at that instant, and they appear on the transporter pad a little singed, but fine.
^I don't believe with Data on the job there wouldn't be the need to endanger Scotty and LaForge even that much.
He could just as easily beam them out THROUGH the shields of the Jenolan before the torpedoes impact with seconds to spare.
He could just as easily beam them out THROUGH the shields of the Jenolan before the torpedoes impact with seconds to spare.
But less dramatic.
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