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Spoilers Batwoman - Season 1

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I want to know who is out there measuring these actresses down to the 1/2 inch.
 
You really should watch M:I some day - no, you can't really say that the character of Dan Briggs had no ties to the other characters in the first season; and yes they did swap out some characters during the run, but a few were there for the entire run and had backgrounds. It was hardly an anthology type series.

I not only watched the entire series, I reviewed it on my blog. And there was no real effort to explore any kind of relationships between Briggs and the other main characters. The instances where Briggs was shown to have a history with a character were with guest agents he recruited, like Albert Paulsen and Mary Ann Mobley, because M:I originally went for the kind of format popular in those days where episodes focused on a featured guest star and the regulars were largely there to support their story. Even Martin Landau was originally a one-shot guest agent who went over well enough to be kept on as a "special guest" all season long.


it was also an episodic series, an anthology series would be something like The Twilight Zone.

What you need to understand about TV from that era is that even shows with continuing characters usually tried to be as anthology-like as possible, because anthologies had been established in the '50s as the classiest TV format, and because the nature of TV in those days (before frequent reruns, home video, season sets, and Wikipedia) made it wiser to approach a series as a succession of self-contained, standalone stories rather than chapters in an ongoing narrative. It was preferable from a budgetary and logistical perspective to have a continuing cast and standing sets, and it helped ratings to have familiar faces to attract viewers every week, but it was still preferred for the stories to be as anthology-like as possible, to put the regulars in a new situation every week, interacting with new people and getting embroiled in their problems that could be resolved within 50-odd minutes and form a complete single-episode arc, while the regulars stayed unchanged so that episodes could be missed or aired in any order without any confusion for the viewers.

This is why there were so many shows like The Fugitive or Route 66 where the characters were in a different town meeting different people every week; Star Trek was a sci-fi version of that. And Mission: Impossible was very much in the anthology-esque mold, because the main cast essentially played new characters every week. The early first season and the fifth season tried to delve into the team's personal lives somewhat, but for most of the series, it was the showrunners' preference to subsume their personalities completely within their personas of the week to avoid confusion. It's hard to get more anthology-like than that short of actually being an anthology.


I want to know who is out there measuring these actresses down to the 1/2 inch.

The figures are from the Internet Movie Database's biography pages. I think they might be converting from centimeters.

Anyway, half-inch height measurements don't seem odd to me, since my father always gave his height as six feet, two and a half inches.
 
The only situation I can think of is Babylon 5.

That's not even remotely similar.

For one thing, Babylon 5's entire premise and ensemble cast weren't directly tied to Sinclair the way that every single conceptual and narrative element of Batwoman were tied to Kate in Season 1.

For another thing, Babylon 5 was able to more or less resolve its first-season storyline, which isn't happening here.

This decision is the equivalent of writing Lois and Clark out of Lois and Clark after one season in the midst of a two-part storyline, or ending a midseason finale of, say, The Flash on a cliffhanger and then coming back with Grant Gustin's Barry Allen suddenly gone and a brand-new character with absolutely no connection to Barry or any of his friends and family suddenly and inexplicably being part of the story with no explanation and the two-part storyline that the show was in the midst of just being dropped like a hot potato.

It is not in any way an irrational or knee-jerk reaction to give up on a series like Batwoman over a creative decision that hits a gigantic reset button and makes an entire season's worth of character development and plot narrative completely meaningless.
 
that hits a gigantic reset button and makes an entire season's worth of character development and plot narrative completely meaningless.
There's no evidence this is going to happen with the other characters. If the writers are creative enough they can figure out how to continue some of those plot lines with out Kate.
 
If the writers are creative enough they can figure out how to continue some of those plot lines with out Kate.

Yup. Jacob still has established relationship arcs with Alice, Mary, and Sophie, and they can continue to build on the growing Luke-Mary relationship and on Mary's vendetta against Alice for killing her mother. Sophie also has her developing relationship with Julia, and Julia and Luke have some history through Batman. There are still lots of dynamics they can use.
 
Yup. Jacob still has established relationship arcs with Alice, Mary, and Sophie, and they can continue to build on the growing Luke-Mary relationship and on Mary's vendetta against Alice for killing her mother. Sophie also has her developing relationship with Julia, and Julia and Luke have some history through Batman. There are still lots of dynamics they can use.

None of these arcs mean anything without Kate.
 
I think it would be neat if they did her hair like that, although then it would be best for her to wear her hair differently in civilian mode so it wouldn't be so distinctive (yes, I'm looking at you, Courtney/Stargirl). Also, the advantage of Kate's Batwoman wig (at least in the comics) is that it's not her real hair so it can't hurt her if it's pulled on.
 
Since they're going to the trouble of creating a brand new character, I think it's only fitting to have her have her own distinct look, and with such spectacular hair it would be a crime against humanity to hide it.
 
Since they're going to the trouble of creating a brand new character, I think it's only fitting to have her have her own distinct look, and with such spectacular hair it would be a crime against humanity to hide it.

Although in looking at pictures online, she's sported a lot of different hairstyles, from straightened (and dyed silver at one point) to wavy to braided to a huge afro. So it's hard to predict what look they'll go with. Although I agree it would be nice if it looked like it did in the publicity photo used in the initial announcement.
 
Could do some very interesting stuff with a black Batwoman and her relationship with a police force but likely too heavy for the network to have Batwoman spraying ACAB on the Bat sign.
 
Could do some very interesting stuff with a black Batwoman and her relationship with a police force but likely too heavy for the network to have Batwoman spraying ACAB on the Bat sign.

I dunno, Arrow dealt with corrupt cops on occasion, and police/government corruption has been built into the Batman/Gotham narrative since Batman: Year One, with the idea being that the reason a vigilante is needed in the first place is because the system is too corrupt or broken to function.
 
And to others whose interest in the series was rooted in it being conceptually centered on Kate.
If the main actress was the main or reason you watched, then yes, her quitting would mean you wouldn't want to watch it - but nothing the producers can do if the actress herself wants out; and they agree to that request; which they did.

That particular situation ain't changing.
 
If the main actress was the main or reason you watched, then yes, her quitting would mean you wouldn't want to watch it - but nothing the producers can do if the actress herself wants out; and they agree to that request; which they did.

That particular situation ain't changing.

It's not the actress; it's the character.

Myself and many others were more than prepared to accept a new performer stepping into the role of Kate Kane in place of Ruby Rose, but to completely take the Kate Kane character out of her own show is a recipe for disaster and we consequently have no desire to watch the series without her in cape and cowl.
 
Changing cast after a single pilot is a different matter -- it happens frequently. Changing the lead after an entire season is massively different. Imagine if Pike had been the captain for all of season 1 and Kirk had been brought in at the start of season 2.

Like 12 O'Clock High after they fired Robert Lansing. They killed him off in the first few minutes of season 2 (all you saw was his double's shoulder) and Lansing wouldn't even let them use his image on the command board, so they had Andrew Duggan cover his picture with his hand when he whipped it off. It was awkward, but it was a solid episode. By that time, Frank Overton was the only regular left from the first season since John Larkin passed away earlier in the year.
 
It's not the actress; it's the character.

Myself and many others were more than prepared to accept a new performer stepping into the role of Kate Kane in place of Ruby Rose, but to completely take the Kate Kane character out of her own show is a recipe for disaster and we consequently have no desire to watch the series without her in cape and cowl.
Fair enough.
 
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