Spoilers Batwoman - Season 1

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  1. CorporalCaptain

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    I'm OK with that, and I'm OK with Bruce just being the hand that sips the drinks with a voice, à la Charlie on the original Charlie's Angels, then bye-bye!
     
  2. Christopher

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    I don't think it matters where Batman is. That's not what the show will be about. It's about the consequences of his absence, regardless of the reasons for it.

    And Kate, from what I've seen of her, is very much her own woman. Bruce may be her cousin, but she's not her cousin's keeper. Even when Batman is around in the comics, she still acts independently, letting him do his own thing while she does hers. So while Nightwing or Batgirl might go to great lengths to search for Bruce, I doubt Kate would much care. If Bruce is ever ready to come back and join the fight again, he'll do it on his own time. If not, if he just gave up, then Kate would probably just write him off -- the hell with him. She'll save Gotham on her own.
     
  3. JD

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    OK, that would work to.
    I don't mean to take anything away from Kate with my comments about Bruce, I just think if they are going to give an answer to where he went, it should be one that puts a stop to people asking why he isn't helping out every time there's a crisis.
     
  4. Christopher

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    Nothing is going to stop fans from asking annoying questions, so that shouldn't dictate what storytellers do. It should only come up if it's actually relevant to the story.
     
  5. JD

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    How much do the work together in the comics?
     
  6. Greg Cox

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    That's kinda my attitude. Batman is great. Heck, I just wrote a Batman book. But there have been no shortage of Batman movies and TV shows in my lifetime, starting with Adam West back in the day. Never seen a BATWOMAN series before, though.

    If I tune into BATWOMAN, it's because I want to see Batwoman . ....
     
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  7. Christopher

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    From what I gather, not much. It's not as close a partnership as with the rest of the Batman Family. Batwoman debuted when Bruce was dead for a while, so she was pretty independent from him right off the bat (no pun intended), and I don't think that changed much when he came back. She and Batman don't always see eye to eye, particularly since Kate, as an ex-soldier, is more willing to use lethal force.
     
  8. Greg Cox

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    Pretty much.

    The honest answer is: it depends. On who the current writer is, which particular comics you're talking about, etc. At one point, they were teaming up pretty regularly in DETECTIVE COMICS, but not in their individual titles. And, last time I checked, they'd had a bit of falling out.

    One nitpick: Bruce wasn't actually dead when Batwoman debuted, just taking a year-long sabbatical during the original "52" miniseries, while recovering from the events of INFINITE CRISIS. He didn't "die" until FINAL CRISIS a few years later . . .. .
     
  9. CorporalCaptain

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    Exactly. Plus, there are numerous other characters too who I want to see but never have seen before in live-action.

    I don't like to think in terms of zero-sum games (often people treat situations as zero-sum games when they're not), but in terms of character presence, it kinda is, especially when the mere presence of a character like Batman in a scene will, I think, tend to gravitate the attention of the storyteller towards him and away from everybody else.
     
  10. Christopher

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    Oh, I thought it was during the period when Dick took over as Batman and Bruce went through that weird Grant Morrison reincarnation-through-DC-history storyline. Now that I think about it, I guess it makes sense that she was already around by then and was one of the competitors in the "Battle for the Cowl."
     
  11. Greg Cox

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    Honestly, I had to search my memory a bit--and I novelized those storylines! :)

    But, yeah, the sequence was INFINITE CRISIS, 52 (where Batwoman debuted), COUNTDOWN, and FINAL CRISIS (where Batman "died").
     
  12. dodge

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    According to Deadline, the show already has a writer's room assembled, so a series pickup is almost guaranteed.

    Interestingly there's apparently a Katy Keene pilot in the works, so if that gets picked up as well we could be looking at a Kate Kane/Katy Keene evening on the CW next season. :D
     
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    LOL--so we will see Katy Keene involved in kinky sex hook-ups while finding herself surrounded by bizarre and mysterious conspiracies.
     
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    I didn't realize this was still in question.
     
  17. kirk55555

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    I always assumed this was going to series, because CW has greenlit all DC shows its made pilots for, and Arrow ending frees up space for them (even if BW doesn't end up taking Arrow's timeslot).

    I'm not particularly interested in it because of how little connection it has to the actual character of Batwoman, but it never occurred to me that it wasn't going to get at least one season. If Supergirl, Arrow post Season 2, Legends of Tomorrow post Season 1 and Black Lightning can stay on the air at CW, they will obviously air anything with even a slight DC connection.
     
  18. crookeddy

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    Is it mandatory for you to have unpopular opinions on every subject?
     
  19. Christopher

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    It was always likely, but it wasn't official until now. There's a procedure to be followed in these things. Some shows get a full sesaon order without a pilot being needed, but The CW wanted a pilot first in this case.
     
  20. dodge

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