Battlestar Galactica getting rebooted (again) for NBS's streaming service

[Guy Gardener]

Roman Legionnaires vs. Cylon Centurions?

English Redcoats vs. Cylon Centurions?

Stalin vs. TOS era Baltar.

TOS era, the Cylons did not have heavy weapons, so how did they frakkk up 12 colonies, full of billions of people?

Stabbing?

It was the other way around with NU BSG. The Basestars only had heavy weapons, since they were NEVER supposed to have gotten into a fair fight with any battlestars.

 

[The Wormhole]

Some remains or evidence of the BSG crew is discovered after having survived 150k years?

IIRC, the mockup cover of National Geographic that Ron Moore is reading in his cameo in the epilogue scene of BSG's finale features a Raptor being unearthed at an excavation site.

 

[Marc]

When you say Earth 2.0, you are talking about our Earth right? Some remains or evidence of the BSG crew is discovered after having survived 150k years?

God intervene or Sam botched and the Galatica didn't fly into the sun with the rest of the RTF...

IIRC, the mockup cover of National Geographic that Ron Moore is reading in his cameo in the epilogue scene of BSG's finale features a Raptor being unearthed at an excavation site.

Doesn't seem to have been visible in the episode though. Just had a quick look (digital copies come in handy have and we don't see the cover just the article about Mitochondrial Eve.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

When you say Earth 2.0, you are talking about our Earth right? Some remains or evidence of the BSG crew is discovered after having survived 150k years?

I'm liking the idea that there was a faction of the colonists that didn't go along with the order to abandon all of their technology, and they built a city (or cities) on Earth...thus giving rise to the "lost continent of Atlantis" myth.

 

[137th Gebirg]

That would be a cool twist. The whole thing was based on Von Daniken's "Chariots of the Gods", which was even referenced on that NatGeo magazine cover RDM was reading in the finale.


It would be nice to get back to that original premise, IMO.

 

[Marc]

That would be a cool twist. The whole thing was based on Von Daniken's "Chariots of the Gods", which was even referenced on that NatGeo magazine cover RDM was reading in the finale. It would be nice to get back to that original premise.

And would fit the opening narration from the original series.
"There are those who believe that life here began out there, far across the universe, with tribes of humans who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans. Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man, who even now fight to survive somewhere beyond the heavens."

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

God intervene or Sam botched and the Galatica didn't fly into the sun with the rest of the RTF...

Sam could have made the Cylon bio-epoxy work at the last second and the old girl is as good as new. Then he flew off and did battle against the possibly thousands of other Baseships everybody conveniently forgot about in the last episode.

Galactica & Sam became the equivalent of Moya & Pilot.

 

[Noname Given]

Roman Legionnaires vs. Cylon Centurions?

English Redcoats vs. Cylon Centurions?

Stalin vs. TOS era Baltar.

TOS era, the Cylons did not have heavy weapons, so how did they frakkk up 12 colonies, full of billions of people?

Stabbing?

It was the other way around with NU BSG. The Basestars only had heavy weapons, since they were NEVER supposed to have gotten into a fair fight with any battlestars.

They nuked from orbit (it was the only way to be sure.) -- it was mentioned the Cylons nuked many cities and then mopped up. In the 1978 pilot film, part of the reason they had a food shortage was because they weren't able to check all possible kinds of radiation poisoning for the food they did manage to take on the ships.

 

[Marc]

They nuked from orbit (it was the only way to be sure.) -- it was mentioned the Cylons nuked many cities and then mopped up. In the 1978 pilot film, part of the reason they had a food shortage was because they weren't able to check all possible kinds of radiation poisoning for the food they did manage to take on the ships.

yeah they never quite convey the level of destruction of the Colonies in the original. Not sure if that was 1970s tv sensibilities or the budgetary and FX reasons. Probably all three.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

That would be a cool twist. The whole thing was based on Von Daniken's "Chariots of the Gods", which was even referenced on that NatGeo magazine cover RDM was reading in the finale.
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It would be nice to get back to that original premise, IMO.

"Coffee Chain Vanishes"

 

[Guy Gardener]

Lucy, which is a real, the oldest human-ish skeleton, they make out is Helo and Athena's kid.

 

[137th Gebirg]

We're all Cylons.

 

[David cgc]

IIRC, the mockup cover of National Geographic that Ron Moore is reading in his cameo in the epilogue scene of BSG's finale features a Raptor being unearthed at an excavation site.

That would be a cool twist. The whole thing was based on Von Daniken's "Chariots of the Gods", which was even referenced on that NatGeo magazine cover RDM was reading in the finale.
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It would be nice to get back to that original premise, IMO.

That was a joke cover made by a fan shortly after the finale aired. This page has the real cover used in the show.

RDM mentioned in his commentary that one of his early ideas for how the show would do the modern-day revelation is that Galactica crashed into Earth after the final jump, and the last scene of the show would be modern-day prospectors or scientists using ground-penetrating radar or something on a mountain and finding the nameplate on their scans, which may have been the inspiration for the joke. Part of the reason he decided against it was that it would undermine the ending showing our world, since it wouldn't be our world for long after a giant spaceship was dug out of the ground.

 

[Guy Gardener]

That sounds like Transformers.

Noah wasn't from three million years ago.

The Transformers had the first Ark, so why pussy foot around the Christians?

 

[137th Gebirg]

That’s all ancient Jewish lore, way before the Christians existed.

The flood story was even older, from the Babylonians and Sumerians (amongst many others in ancient times with a flood myth in their texts). Don’t think there are any those guys left around to piss off.

 

[Bad Robot]

I got excited when I first heard this news, because I thought they were going to go in a new direction or maybe revive the original series. I'm less enthusiastic about them just sticking with the reimagined BSG, though I do get that it was the more successful version. I don't see where they can go with the reimagined series. Perhaps they can tell a fuller version of the Cylon War or focus on another Battlestar that escaped or other survivors.

I'm not really excited about another BSG spinoff either. Too soon? No, it's too late to do another Caprica or something else based on a show that ended ten years ago. Besides, I think what audiences mostly want from a Battlestar Galactica series is spaceships and Cylons. Which is why Caprica never made sense to me. I mean I suppose they could flesh out the backstory of Kobal and the Final Five and all that, but honestly most of that stuff already didn't make sense in the series. If there's anything left to explore, you figure out a way to tell it in your main story (which is spaceships and Cylons).

This feels like a desperate move on the part of See-Fee Channel (I'm pronouncing it in the ridiculous way that it's spelled) to replay one of their greatest hits. I think another reboot or a movie trilogy is what's appropriate for BSG (if they can get some real names behind writing and directing it, which they didn't seem to be doing on the movie front).

 

[Guy Gardener]

SYFY only has four new to air programs at the mo.

The Magicians, which fricking amazing. Wynona Earp which is pretty good, Van helsing that is okay, and Alien News Desk which I couldn't tolerate the pilot.

 

[DarKush]

I'm not really excited about another BSG spinoff either. Too soon? No, it's too late to do another Caprica or something else based on a show that ended ten years ago. Besides, I think what audiences mostly want from a Battlestar Galactica series is spaceships and Cylons. Which is why Caprica never made sense to me. I mean I suppose they could flesh out the backstory of Kobal and the Final Five and all that, but honestly most of that stuff already didn't make sense in the series. If there's anything left to explore, you figure out a way to tell it in your main story (which is spaceships and Cylons).

This feels like a desperate move on the part of See-Fee Channel (I'm pronouncing it in the ridiculous way that it's spelled) to replay one of their greatest hits. I think another reboot or a movie trilogy is what's appropriate for BSG (if they can get some real names behind writing and directing it, which they didn't seem to be doing on the movie front).

I agree with you about there being little interesting places to go with the reimagined series. From what I recall reading about Caprica was that it came from a pitch for a completely different, non-BSG show, but the only way to get the concept realized was to tie it to the then smoking hot BSG franchise. I never really got into Caprica, though I did watch the marathon they showed before canceling the show and the last several episodes were quite good. The idea of Caprica wasn't a bad one I think, however I don't think it was what I wanted to see at first. If they had done a bigger, better budgeted version of Blood & Chrome instead of Caprica I think that might have gone over better. I for one wanted to see the first Cylon War, not a slow build up to it.

I take it that NBC-Universal is probably looking at CBS All Access and how they are handling Trek and BSG is their franchise, so why not use it? And maybe they don't want to take the risk of going all in on a new reboot or reimagining and are hoping a new BSG revival will automatically get back fans of that series without doing the work of having to sell everyone on another new version of BSG.

 

[Bad Robot]

I agree with you about there being little interesting places to go with the reimagined series. From what I recall reading about Caprica was that it came from a pitch for a completely different, non-BSG show, but the only way to get the concept realized was to tie it to the then smoking hot BSG franchise. I never really got into Caprica, though I did watch the marathon they showed before canceling the show and the last several episodes were quite good. The idea of Caprica wasn't a bad one I think, however I don't think it was what I wanted to see at first. If they had done a bigger, better budgeted version of Blood & Chrome instead of Caprica I think that might have gone over better. I for one wanted to see the first Cylon War, not a slow build up to it.

I take it that NBC-Universal is probably looking at CBS All Access and how they are handling Trek and BSG is their franchise, so why not use it? And maybe they don't want to take the risk of going all in on a new reboot or reimagining and are hoping a new BSG revival will automatically get back fans of that series without doing the work of having to sell everyone on another new version of BSG.

So wait... Caprica was not originally a Ron Moore/David Icke thing? Or it was a new series of theirs that got repurposed into BSG?

I would have been up for seeing a completely new sci-fi series of theirs. But I never watched Caprica because I just couldn't visualize a place for it as BSG. I mean I have it (I think? I'd have to check) as part of my BSG Blu-Ray box set, and I still haven't gotten around to watching it. In theory I could pop it in at anytime.

And yeah, Blood and Chrome looked more interesting as a new BSG series. But I haven't watched it either. Something about knowing the movie was edited together from more of those damn webisodes, and that's how (the existing portion of) the show was made has turned me off. But it too sits on my shelf.

I think the thing to do (back to my spaceships and Cylons comment) would have been produce Blood and Chrome as the news BSG spinoff, and then find a way to integrate Caprica into that as backstory. Or otherwise as you say, produce Caprica as an entirely different thing.

With NBC-Universal driving the new show (and I don't know why I didn't consider that), I guess it makes sense they wouldn't want to reboot it. I just feel like they already tried spinning off BSG and they canceled it both times. What are the odds they would consider something like that earlier reboot they were producing for FOX? Probably none, in a world that's already seen Moore's version. Which again leaves me wishing Universal would just go back to pushing BSG as a film franchise, something that more easily COULD exist as a separate entity.

I also don't think CBS Trek is a good model for BSG to follow. Maybe that could change, if STP is a good enough show that CBS can now safely cancel STD without hurting the rest of their Trek machine. But also, BSG isn't ST. It's a show about deliverance and it has a very finite premise.

 

[Noname Given]

And yeah, Blood and Chrome looked more interesting as a new BSG series. But I haven't watched it either. Something about knowing the movie was edited together from more of those damn webisodes, and that's how (the existing portion of) the show was made has turned me off. But it too sits on my shelf.

To be fair, the film itself was edidted down into those websodes. (I got the Blu-Ray of the "Blood and Chrome" film/pilot, and it was the film first. SYFY made the decision to edit that down to some strung together websodes.)