Battle Bridges... cobweb collectors?

[Search4]

Its really quite clear they are NOT cobweb collectors.. there are no spiders (or presumably other pests, except the occasional tribble) aboard ship.

Training makes the most sense, and training during combat would be an amazing use. There's another theory that for any 'first contact' you need a 'good team' and a 'threat team', designed to evaluate what you are seeing... the threat team could be based on the battle bridge.

 

[Timo]

(Why no onboard animals? The ship could indeed be equipped with efficient pest control - but it could also be equipped with a maintenance system that makes use of spiders, and otherwise efficiently "biomanages" the ship as a whole.)

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Mysterion]

(Why no onboard animals? The ship could indeed be equipped with efficient pest control - but it could also be equipped with a maintenance system that makes use of spiders, and otherwise efficiently "biomanages" the ship as a whole.)

Timo Saloniemi

Especially if this was done in conjunction with a hydroponics (food production? who wants replicated stuff all the time?) or other environmental system.

 

[SeerSGB]

Probably boils down to the Captain's style. Someone like Picard might wait till the ship is heading into combat, then order the crews to stations as a standby, versus Jeillico who would probably keep the bridge on standby and fully crewed at all times

Yet another in the list of reasons why Jellico was a better starship captain than Picard.

Jellico was quite awesome. Something tells me that he wouldn't have put a councilor on the bridge.

"I sense hostile intent from them Captain."

"Oh really, what was your first clue? The fact that it's a flicking Warbird commanded by a infamous Romulan Admiral, or the face full of plasma torps and disruptors we just ate?."

Training makes the most sense, and training during combat would be an amazing use. There's another theory that for any 'first contact' you need a 'good team' and a 'threat team', designed to evaluate what you are seeing... the threat team could be based on the battle bridge.

That's not a bad idea. And it'd be really smart for first contact with alien starships. Or when the senior staff is aboard another ship for diplomatic or away duties.

One of teh big shames of TNG was that the Battle Bridge wasn't used more.

 

[Tigger]

Jellico was quite awesome. Something tells me that he wouldn't have put a councilor on the bridge.

Wasn't he the one who got her out of that "purple pajama" and back into the teal miniskirt uniform?

 

[Vance]

Wasn't he the one who got her out of that "purple pajama" and back into the teal miniskirt uniform?

Yep, he gave her two choices.

A) Get into uniform and use your rank.
B) Get the hell off of the bridge.

She chose A. One of the more interesting aspects of the episode is that Troi whined about Jericho the LEAST (aside from Riker, who got it the moment he actually TALKED to Jericho), and pretty much just put on the uniform. Even Data, of all characters, whined about 'being more military' more than she did... but the one character who was LEAST 'Star Fleet', was one of the first to adapt.

 

[Mysterion]

Wasn't he the one who got her out of that "purple pajama" and back into the teal miniskirt uniform?

Yep, he gave her two choices.

A) Get into uniform and use your rank.
B) Get the hell off of the bridge.

She chose A. One of the more interesting aspects of the episode is that Troi whined about Jericho the LEAST (aside from Riker, who got it the moment he actually TALKED to Jericho), and pretty much just put on the uniform. Even Data, of all characters, whined about 'being more military' more than she did... but the one character who was LEAST 'Star Fleet', was one of the first to adapt.

However she is the one who was "warning" Riker that Jellico had doubts in his head. Like that was a bad or unusual thing.

 

[Vance]

However she is the one who was "warning" Riker that Jellico had doubts in his head. Like that was a bad or unusual thing.

I got a different feel from that scene. I found that it was to reign in Riker, reminding that Jericho is there to do his job, and isn't the 'perfect ass' that the crew was acting like he was.

 

[Mysterion]

However she is the one who was "warning" Riker that Jellico had doubts in his head. Like that was a bad or unusual thing.

I got a different feel from that scene. I found that it was to reign in Riker, reminding that Jericho is there to do his job, and isn't the 'perfect ass' that the crew was acting like he was.

Hmmmm....think I'll have to watch that one again.

 

[Plecostomus]

Probably boils down to the Captain's style. Someone like Picard might wait till the ship is heading into combat, then order the crews to stations as a standby, versus Jeillico who would probably keep the bridge on standby and fully crewed at all times

Yet another in the list of reasons why Jellico was a better starship captain than Picard.

Jellico was quite awesome. Something tells me that he wouldn't have put a councilor on the bridge.

Maybe not on the daily bridge rotation no, but as a good commanding officer he'd keep one within reach to consult with as needed.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

It really doesn't matter where you put the bridge, provided we're talking realistically, not dramatically. I mean, what's the average yield of a photon torpedo?

~65 megatons for a "standard" 24th century torpedo

 

[drychlick]

i think why have it when you not useing it much have a great day

 

[David cgc]

The John M. Ford novel Final Reflection shows the Klingons using the auxiliary bridge for training cadets - even during, and especially during, real combat!

Speaking of novels, in "Rogue Saucer," after the main bridge's controls are fried by a cyber attack, we learn that the battle bridge is, in fact, always manned by a senior officer and a couple of junior officers, just in case. At that moment, it was Dr. Crusher who, if I remember right, implied that babysitting the battle bridge was usually a pretty shit assignment, and that it was rotated so no one officer got too many shifts where their job was to sit in an uncomfortable chair doing absolutely nothing.

Well, if the Ent-E did seperate, then you'd have an impulse-powered saucer section with a couple of phaser strips and the part of the ship with all the weapons drifting without propulsion. Tis' a brilliant tactic.

Well, after the Nemesis upgrades, the saucer had a couple of forward and aft torpedo launchers. As for the engineering section, there are a couple of cutouts under the fantail that could be shuttered impulse engines. Sometimes they even are shown lit, in publicity shots and the like.

 

[Kaziarl]

I can imagine the primary difference between a Battle Bridge, and Auxiliary Control being that on a normal, non separating ship, you don't need a battle bridge. An auxiliary control is sufficient if the bridge is damaged, and in an emergency main bridge functions can be divided among different departments with little to no hassle.

On a ship like a Galaxy Class, you have the main bridge which deals with the primary functions of the entire ship when whole, and the saucer when separated. The battle bridge deals with primary functions in the stardrive section, and auxiliary control if the main bridge is damaged.

It's also conceivably possible to use the holodeck as a replacement bridge, since we have seen the ship controlled from a holodeck before during the Nth Degree (I think thats the right title...)

 

[ancient]

It's also conceivably possible to use the holodeck as a replacement bridge

If you don't mind having to deal with a Hun, Jack the Ripper, and Evil Lincoln suddenly showing up due to holodeck malfuctions.

These days if a computer malfunctions, it starts running really slow or freezes. In the future it will continue to run perfectly, cannot be shut off, and will execute a clever scheme to DESTROY you. I love the future.

 

[Anticitizen]

It's also conceivably possible to use the holodeck as a replacement bridge

If you don't mind having to deal with a Hun, Jack the Ripper, and Evil Lincoln suddenly showing up due to holodeck malfuctions.

These days if a computer malfunctions, it starts running really slow or freezes. In the future it will continue to run perfectly, cannot be shut off, and will execute a clever scheme to DESTROY you. I love the future.

Ha! Don't forget Moriarty, or the cowboys from the episode in which Worf somehow reconfigures his communicator badge into a personal force field