Damn Snyder for thinking that. Superman can be everywhere at once. At least in Metropolis or at least eventually. He can so stop crime faster than people can commit it.
Spoilers Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - Grading & Discussion
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^ The Flash certainly could...
I think the point of the scene though is that Superman can't find her. It is probably before he sees Batman. It was also probably cut, not just because it was "dark", but because it didn't move the story forward.
"We had a scene that we cut from the movie where he tries to look for her when he finds out that Lex has got her. It was a slightly dark scene that we cut out because it sort of represented this dark side. Because when he was looking for his mom he heard all the cries of all the potential crimes going on in the city, you know when you look. [...] "
Jeebus. Never would've thought it.
I can buy Clark being too frazzled or otherwise unable to locate Martha himself just fine, but, given that he can hear the Bat-comm channel, I'm unclear as to why he didn't save her once Alfred deduced her location.
As someone upthread said - sorry, I forget who - these franchise machines are so big and self-perpetuating it takes a big loss to derail them, and neither the TF franchise nor the Snyderverse have had a big loss yet. However, in all probability, neither of the Snyderverse movies have been as big hits, budget-to-profit-wise, as the TF series has been. (Also, amusingly, the first Transformers beats BvS by 17 points on Metacritic.)
Actually, Transformers 3 made 50m less domestically than TF2 despite the 3D surcharge, and TF4 made 110m domestically less than that. It's not that fewer Americans aren't going to see more horrible Transformers movies, because they have, it's that overseas audiences, especially in China, have been going in growing numbers - and even then, TF4, with all its pandering to Chinese audiences, made 100m less worldwide than TF3. Meanwhile, Deadpool will probably wind up with a bigger domestic take than BvS, despite a much smaller budget and no 3D surchages.Now, TF2 was critically and internet-ally reviled. Did they change anything for 3? Not really. And look how much more it made. TF4 was even more reviled than 2, but it did just a smidge less than its predecessor. And they're not changing #$%. They're actually doubling down with an entire new franchise of movies and spin-offs. Money talks.
As someone upthread said - sorry, I forget who - these franchise machines are so big and self-perpetuating it takes a big loss to derail them, and neither the TF franchise nor the Snyderverse have had a big loss yet. However, in all probability, neither of the Snyderverse movies have been as big hits, budget-to-profit-wise, as the TF series has been. (Also, amusingly, the first Transformers beats BvS by 17 points on Metacritic.)
kinda.
It's about international grosses surpassing projected international grosses.
If they don't get the numbers they expect, even if they are huge numbers, the movie is still a fail.
International numbers have to meet international expectations + make up for the short fall in US numbers + generate profit, for this flick to rise form the toilet.
Lets assume that that means that they would have had to underestimate the international take by a third at least.
It's about international grosses surpassing projected international grosses.
If they don't get the numbers they expect, even if they are huge numbers, the movie is still a fail.
International numbers have to meet international expectations + make up for the short fall in US numbers + generate profit, for this flick to rise form the toilet.
Lets assume that that means that they would have had to underestimate the international take by a third at least.
I see what you did there.
Funny to think that, moving at near-light speed, what Flash would be depositing on that hilltop would be the remnants of a kind of meat paste.^ The Flash certainly could...
The second part was not in reference to Martha but a limitation he assigned to Superman. One he didn't have before.
More likely one that wasn't acknowledged before. How would Superman get any sleep with ten thousand screams of pain and fear in his ears at every moment?
International has become much more relevant than it used to be, but domestic is still a primary market. It's where the profit margins are. A movie could be a monster overseas, and still be considered a disappointment if it underperformed in North America.It's all about international grosses, now
This is why Disney wasn't in such a rush with Pirates of the Caribbean 5. On Stranger Tides made 800 million overseas (pretty damn huge), but the Domestic cume was kinda poor (240 mil., against a 250 mil. budget) and the franchise (one of Disney's biggest) went on another hiatus.
Had he done so, we'd have missed out one of the, if not THE, best ever scene of Batman in action, namely the scene where he rescues her from the goons. I don't think a scene of super-strong, super-fast, flying, invulnerable Superman rescuing her would have been as exciting as what we got. So, yeah, while that might be a plothole, it's one I'm prepared to overlook for the sake of good story-telling
The one where he came in after the time limit was over and then fought everyone for five minutes instead of just coming through the window directly behind Martha? The one where the bad guy could have killed her at any time during that whole scene, and then Batman kills him by explosively shooting the gas tank near Martha instead of just shooting the bad guy directly?
The fight scene was awesome, I just wish it was somewhere else in the film.
^ I take your point, but for me, it was just so good that I willingly suspended disbelief.
This issue has been addressed in comics multiple times over the years. Basically the answer is trying to help everybody all the time would be a 24/7 job with no coffee breaks and it's just not possible.
The ending of that comic makes me wonder if DC at some point has had a storyline in which Lex Luthor or someone tries to harvest Superman's energy to power a perpetual motion machine or some shit, Matrix-style.
Earlier than that. There was a story in the early comics after the 1986 reboot which adressed that problem. This story has also been referrenced in Roger Stern's novelization of "The Death and Life of Superman".
That's the oldest story about this I can think of. But there might be referrences to the problem even before that.