Batman: The Brave and the Bold news, discussion and reviews

[Professor Zoom]

It's even more than that,he's writing a story where he kills off Bruce,the man that he's raised as a son.

That's RIGHT. Alfred is SICK. Maybe he resents how Bruce treats him or something. Maybe Alfred will someday be Bruce's greatest enemy.

There's something to that.

Didn't that sort of already happen like back in the 50s or 60s?

That does sound familiar, didn't Alfred get hit on the head or something?

I'm just saying, Alfred's fantasies include child endangerment, child suffering and the death of his master in a VERY unpleasant way.

Bruce should keep an eye on that sick bastard.

 

[Vendikarr]

That's RIGHT. Alfred is SICK. Maybe he resents how Bruce treats him or something. Maybe Alfred will someday be Bruce's greatest enemy.

There's something to that.

Didn't that sort of already happen like back in the 50s or 60s?

That does sound familiar, didn't Alfred get hit on the head or something?

I'm just saying, Alfred's fantasies include child endangerment, child suffering and the death of his master in a VERY unpleasant way.

Bruce should keep an eye on that sick bastard.

See The Outsider.

 

[Professor Zoom]

Didn't that sort of already happen like back in the 50s or 60s?

That does sound familiar, didn't Alfred get hit on the head or something?

I'm just saying, Alfred's fantasies include child endangerment, child suffering and the death of his master in a VERY unpleasant way.

Bruce should keep an eye on that sick bastard.

See The Outsider.

Mm hm. Perhaps Alfred DIDN'T forget... merely awaiting the right moment to STRIKE!

 

[Chris3123]

"Darkseid Descending". It was ok. Not quite the epic story I was expecting.

- Finally got to see Watchtower again (we saw it briefly in "Sidekicks Assemble!")

- Interesting idea, Batman forming a new League. But what happened to the old one? I don't remember hearing about it being disbanded in any previous episode.

- We finally get to see Martian Manhunter in more than just a two-second cameo. However, I just didn't like the characterization at all. He acted and spoke way too... human, like when he was going on about when he went head to head with "Big Blue himself", and especially the fight.

- Finally got to see Darkseid. While no Michael Ironside, the actor did a fairly good job.

- One question I kept asking myself after the Boomtubes started showing up. Where the heck is Superman? I would think he'd show up at least when Darkseid himself arrived.

- Batman vs. Darkseid. Now anyone who has watched the show knows that Batman seems often ridiculously overpowered for someone that doesn't actually have any powers, often easily defeating super-powered baddies twice his size without the use of any gadgets. I could accept that normally, but this was Darkseid, and I really hoped they wouldn't have Batman kick his ass. Thankfully, the best he was able to to was make him stumble back a little (and that was with those electrified knuckle things).

- I knew Question would make it out alive. I do wish they had gotten Jeffery Combs to voice him again, though. This guy just didn't sound right.

- Again, Superman! I was honestly half-expecting him to show up. I hear he will appear in an upcoming episode, though, so that's something.

 

[Mr Light]

"Darkseid Descending" was a great episode. You had a JLI episode AND a massive Darkseid invasion. I really liked the character design on Darkseid and they got a decent voice for him. I was hoping for a more overt reference to the ending of Final Crisis though.

 

[Christopher]

Kinda nice to see the JLI, but it would've been better if they'd gotten J. M. DeMatteis to write it. All in all, I found the episode underwhelming.

On the other hand... Batman has a backup Batcave... under the Lincoln Memorial!!! How awesome is that?

 

[Silvercrest]

"Darkseid Descending". It was ok. Not quite the epic story I was expecting.

- One question I kept asking myself after the Boomtubes started showing up. Where the heck is Superman? I would think he'd show up at least when Darkseid himself arrived.

Not to mention "where is Firestorm?" Since he was in the teaser and all.

My bigger question is why the Boom Tubes didn't make a booming noise. I mean, y'know....

- I knew Question would make it out alive. I do wish they had gotten Jeffery Combs to voice him again, though. This guy just didn't sound right.

I was also wondering why Bats sent in a single scout to the home of the "worst villains in the universe" (or whatever it was he called them). A guy with no powers and whose primary ability is to disguise himself as other humans (I thought). They kind of redeemed themselves with the ending, but why not send J'onn?

 

[Admiral_Young]

I thought they were purposefully avoiding using Superman and only recently introduced him in the Brave and the Bold animated comic? I haven't read anything on Superman yet but I'm guessing they're saving him for a big episode or something. I have yet to see "Darkseid Descending". Will have to check it out.

 

[Christopher]

I thought they were purposefully avoiding using Superman and only recently introduced him in the Brave and the Bold animated comic?

No, both Superman and Wonder Woman make cameos within the first six issues of the B:TB&TB comic book, though only in the 2-page "teaser" stories. (Although the main story of issue 1 features Power Girl and Luthor.)

 

[Admiral_Young]

Thanks for the explanation. I couldn't remember if it was full fledged appearance or not, it's been a while since I read the story of their appearance.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Awesome episode. Is this the current version of Firestorm in the comics?

 

[startrekwatcher]

It was great as far as spectacle went but I like a little more story and character in my entertainment--however tv/films these days are pretty much all about spectacle.

 

[Christopher]

Awesome episode. Is this the current version of Firestorm in the comics?

No, it's an original take that's an amalgam of the different incarnations of Firestorm in the comics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestorm_(comics)

On the animated TV series Batman: The Brave and the Bold, a combination of both versions Firestorm appeared in the episode "A Bat Divided!". This version consisted of the body of Jason, an intelligent youngster (voiced by Tyler James Williams), and the mind of ex-jock Ronnie Raymond (voiced by Bill Fagerbakke), who were caught in the middle of the nuclear accident that created Firestorm. Producer James Tucker observed that because in this version "the smart kid has the body and he's got this dumb guy in his head telling him, stuff...it's kind of a total flip of the original Firestorm."

 

[shivkala]

Awesome episode. Is this the current version of Firestorm in the comics?

No, it's an original take that's an amalgam of the different incarnations of Firestorm in the comics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestorm_(comics)

On the animated TV series Batman: The Brave and the Bold, a combination of both versions Firestorm appeared in the episode "A Bat Divided!". This version consisted of the body of Jason, an intelligent youngster (voiced by Tyler James Williams), and the mind of ex-jock Ronnie Raymond (voiced by Bill Fagerbakke), who were caught in the middle of the nuclear accident that created Firestorm. Producer James Tucker observed that because in this version "the smart kid has the body and he's got this dumb guy in his head telling him, stuff...it's kind of a total flip of the original Firestorm."

Actually, Firestorm does currently consist of Jason Rusch and a recently resurrected Ronnie Raymond. They don't get along quite as well as their Brave and the Bold counterparts, partially because Black Lantern Ronnie turned Jason's girlfriend to salt. Jason has basically forgiven Ronnie, but an evil version of Firestorm, who calls itself Deathstorm is trying to tear them apart, because the Firestorm matrix contains part of the big bang and if Jason and Ronnie get angry enough at each other, they'll cause a new big bang.

As with the show's portrayl of Aquaman, I find myself wishing the comics were more in line with B:TB&TB.

 

[Professor Zoom]

As with the show's portrayl of Aquaman, I find myself wishing the comics were more in line with B:TB&TB.

OUTRAGEOUS!

 

[Electric Coleslaw]

Aquaman was great. I loved that he got into the fight between Booster and Green Lantern. Since I haven't read comics since the early 80's, I'm a bit lost on what's going on with the League and the Final Crisis thing but I was wondering where the rest of the heroes were as well. Especially since we just saw Flash a few episodes ago.

As for Superman being missing, I knew it was a given since the Brave and Bold comics typically had Batman with other heroes but only World's Finest had it Bats-Supes exclusively.

I thought it was a good episode though. Except when Batman was running from Darkseid's eye beams, it would have been cool to have led them back to Darkseid himself and zap him.

 

[Christopher]

Aquaman was great. I loved that he got into the fight between Booster and Green Lantern. Since I haven't read comics since the early 80's, I'm a bit lost on what's going on with the League and the Final Crisis thing but I was wondering where the rest of the heroes were as well. Especially since we just saw Flash a few episodes ago.

This show really isn't very similar to whatever the comics are doing at the moment. It draws on characters and ideas from throughout the comics' history but with an emphasis on older stuff, mostly from the '50s and '60s. The version of the Justice League here was based on the Justice League International era of the late '80s.

As for Superman being missing, I knew it was a given since the Brave and Bold comics typically had Batman with other heroes but only World's Finest had it Bats-Supes exclusively.

Again, what the comics do has little relation to what this show does. The show has avoided using Superman and Wonder Woman due to legal issues, apparently, though it's been reported that any such issues have been resolved and both characters will appear in the show's third and final season.

 

[Silvercrest]

recently resurrected Ronnie Raymond

I think you've been reading too many old Marvel comics. DOWN WITH ALLITERATION!

the Firestorm matrix contains part of the big bang and if Jason and Ronnie get angry enough at each other, they'll cause a new big bang

These guys need to talk to Damage.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Sigh...Christopher I guess you purposefully missed "Knights of Tomorrow" then where they used Damian Wayne and had a montage near the end of the episode showing Morrison's Club of Villains including Dr. Hurt. This show has used all facets of Batman comic book history as influences on the series, if it didn't Jamie Reyes would not be the Blue Beetle, they would have chosen Ted Kord instead. I will grant that the majority of the show has drawn on Batman's past history more so than current history but to say that it has nothing to do with the current comments is incorrect. The aforementioned version of Firestorm is another great example.

 

[shivkala]

recently resurrected Ronnie Raymond

I think you've been reading too many old Marvel comics. DOWN WITH ALLITERATION!

the Firestorm matrix contains part of the big bang and if Jason and Ronnie get angry enough at each other, they'll cause a new big bang

These guys need to talk to Damage.

You mean Dearly Departed Damage?

I hadn't made that connection (since I think the whole "Firestorm Matrix is a spark of the Big Bang" thing is silly), but if anyone had a claim to powers tied to the big bang, it would have been Damage.


So was that it (minus the Gail Simone Birds of Prey banned in the USA episode) for Batman: The Brave and the Bold?