Batman: The Brave and the Bold news, discussion and reviews

[Christopher]

So was that it (minus the Gail Simone Birds of Prey banned in the USA episode) for Batman: The Brave and the Bold?

Do you mean, is the series over? No. Counting the Gail Simone episode (which was only postponed for a minor reshoot, not banned), there are three episodes remaining in the second season, and there will be a concluding third season of 13 episodes, bringing the total to 65.

 

[shivkala]

Oh good. I keep hearing different things about the Birds of Prey episode. Glad to hear we'll be getting it.

 

[Silvercrest]

You mean Dearly Departed Damage?

 

[Admiral_Young]

@Christopher...I see that you chose to ignore my post for some reason. I thought I made some valid points.

I still need to see the final episode of the season.

 

[Christopher]

I will grant that the majority of the show has drawn on Batman's past history more so than current history but to say that it has nothing to do with the current comments is incorrect.

That's not what I meant. I wasn't saying that the show refused to use anything from modern comics, I was saying that the show's version of reality isn't obligated to conform to the modern comics. I was responding to a poster who seemed to be assuming that the way the DC Universe was depicted in the show closely reflected or was equivalent to the way it's depicted in the modern comics. I was merely pointing out that they're two highly distinct realities -- that while the show is free to draw on elements from whatever era of the comics it chooses, it portrays a world that, on the whole, is extremely different from what you'd see if you picked up the current comics.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Okay fair enough...I believe though what that poster was suggesting was that he wished certain current versions of characters reflected the way that "Brave and the Bold" had been depicting them. If that is the case then in some circumstances I would agree.

 

[Christopher]

Oh, definitely. TB&TB's Aquaman is probably the coolest version of the character ever.

 

[Galileo7]

The TB&TB series has some interesting new character development and feels much more like an animated comic book then an animated tv series, but I still like the last THE BATMAN 2004-2008 animated tv series.

 

[Christopher]

The TB&TB series has some interesting new character development and feels much more like an animated comic book then an animated tv series...

Yeah... if I have a beef with TB&TB, it's that it's sometimes too much a simple homage to past comics. Like the teaser where they basically did a verbatim retelling of that infamous '50s story where Batman had to wear a different-colored costume every night. It was fun to watch, but nostalgia can only take you so far.

But at other times it manages to be highly original in the way it handles its characters and concepts, so it comes out in the plus column.

...but I still like the last THE BATMAN 2004-2008 animated tv series.

Nice to hear something positive being said about that show. I think it's the weakest of the WB Animation Batman shows, but it tended to get better from season to season, and it definitely had a number of high points. Its DVD tie-in movie was pretty intense stuff, and its Riddler origin episode was better and more B:TAS-like than the actual B:TAS Riddler origin.

 

[Galileo7]

...but I still like the last THE BATMAN 2004-2008 animated tv series.

Nice to hear something positive being said about that show. I think it's the weakest of the WB Animation Batman shows, but it tended to get better from season to season, and it definitely had a number of high points. Its DVD tie-in movie was pretty intense stuff, and its Riddler origin episode was better and more B:TAS-like than the actual B:TAS Riddler origin.

THE BATMAN 2004-2008 was not perfect, but as you pointed out it had some positive events and the later seasons with the addition of Robin worked for me. I was hoping the next animated series was going to become a more intense, less comic book Batman...

 

[Christopher]

THE BATMAN 2004-2008 was not perfect, but as you pointed out it had some positive events and the later seasons with the addition of Robin worked for me.

Wasn't crazy about their Robin. And I regretted that the Ellen Yin character from the first two seasons was abandoned so abruptly. (And replacing the Batwave with the antiquated Batsignal was a mistake. The Batsignal is a concept that makes no sense in this era and should be retired.) Don't get me wrong, overall the writing was better in the later seasons, but there were a few things from the early seasons that I was sorry to lose.

I was hoping the next animated series was going to become a more intense, less comic book Batman...

I gather that might be what they intend for the next Batman series after TB&TB. James Tucker is working on that series too, and he says it's going to be a lot darker. As for "less comic book," I'm not sure what you mean by that, since there are so many different versions of Batman in the comics, and if anything the modern ones tend to be very intense.

 

[Galileo7]

I was hoping the next animated series was going to become a more intense, less comic book Batman...

I gather that might be what they intend for the next Batman series after TB&TB. James Tucker is working on that series too, and he says it's going to be a lot darker. As for "less comic book," I'm not sure what you mean by that, since there are so many different versions of Batman in the comics, and if anything the modern ones tend to be very intense.

That is good to know that the next animated series will be. I meant, like I said in an earlier post that TB&TB was more like an animated comic book(not serious, aimed at younger viewers) not an animated tv series. That is what I meant by less comic book, the BATMAN & ROBIN 1997 movie was too comic book not serious enough.

 

[Christopher]

That is good to know that the next animated series will be. I meant, like I said in an earlier post that TB&TB was more like an animated comic book(not serious, aimed at younger viewers) not an animated tv series. That is what I meant by less comic book, the BATMAN & ROBIN 1997 movie was too comic book not serious enough.

Okay, that comment proves that you don't actually read comic books. The Batman comic books that have been published for, like, the past quarter-century are far darker, grittier, more intense, and more violent than just about any film or television adaptation to date. Of all film and TV adaptations of Batman, the Christopher Nolan films (and the Gotham Knight anime shorts tying into them) are the closest to the style of the Batman comics (and indeed the Nolan movies are, to some extent, adaptations of specific storylines from the comics). Something like Batman & Robin was just about the farthest from the tone and style of its contemporary comics.

TB&TB is very "comic-book" in its way, but it models itself on the style of the comics of the 1940s-60s. Comics today are very different.

 

[Galileo7]

That is good to know that the next animated series will be. I meant, like I said in an earlier post that TB&TB was more like an animated comic book(not serious, aimed at younger viewers) not an animated tv series. That is what I meant by less comic book, the BATMAN & ROBIN 1997 movie was too comic book not serious enough.

Okay, that comment proves that you don't actually read comic books. The Batman comic books that have been published for, like, the past quarter-century are far darker, grittier, more intense, and more violent than just about any film or television adaptation to date. Of all film and TV adaptations of Batman, the Christopher Nolan films (and the Gotham Knight anime shorts tying into them) are the closest to the style of the Batman comics (and indeed the Nolan movies are, to some extent, adaptations of specific storylines from the comics). Something like Batman & Robin was just about the farthest from the tone and style of its contemporary comics.

TB&TB is very "comic-book" in its way, but it models itself on the style of the comics of the 1940s-60s. Comics today are very different.

You are 100% correct. The Batman and other comic books are not written for a younger reader, you are definitely right. I stated it wrong 'comic book' was a misleading term, I meant that TB&TB seamed to be less intense in the approach than the prior animated series as you stated in the 1940s-60s style. The new YOUNG JUSTICE animated series is more intense like prior Batman series.

 

[Admiral_Young]

"Batman: The Brave and the Bold" was intended to be for a much younger audience than "The Batman" or even "Batman:The Animated Series". I think the producers of the series are surprised at the overwhelming positive reaction from fans of all ages has been. Glad to know that there will be another Batman animated series of some kind after BATB concludes.

"The Batman" was something that I didn't get into right away (much like Brave and the Bold, I'm still a relative newcomer) and evolved over it's four seasons. I think the last two seasons were that shows best. I'd say the quality of Brave and the Bold has been steady since it's first episode.