Batman Begins

[The Borgified Corpse]

I liked Batman Begins. While I suppose Bruce Wayne's actions aren't entirely realistic, I think it's as realistic and rational an explanation as you're ever going to get for why Batman exists. Ultimately, the reason why I liked it was because it was the only Batman movie that I think truly let us inside Bruce Wayne's psyche.

I do think that it lacks that great, gothic, mythic quality of the Tim Burton movies, particularly in its portrayal of Gotham City.

Obviously it's better than those Joel Schumacher atrocities. Lets just forget those ever existed, shall we?

As for The Dark Knight, I liked its anarchist interpretation of the Joker and its depiction of Harvey Dent's descent into madness. However, I felt like it kinda lost its focus on Bruce Wayne. Nolan seemed more interested in making a straight up crime drama about Harvey Dent & Jim Gordon teaming up to take out the Joker. Batman almost felt like an inconvenience. He was mostly there for the requisite action sequences.

If I had to rank the live action Batman movies, my list would be:
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Batman Returns
Batman (1989)
Batman & Robin
Batman Forever

Ras' intentions for Gotham makes only the slightest sense, well he's a comic book villian so he's crazy anyway. But the Gotham portrayed is not terribly different than the corruption found in any city in the world. There's no special motive to pick Gotham. Gotham needed to be shown to be unique in this story, and it just wasn't.

I think the reason why he was picking Gotham City to be destroyed is because it was a symbol of the corruption & decadence of modern American culture as a whole. It's basically New York City with a different name.

 

[Marc]

I do think that it lacks that great, gothic, mythic quality of the Tim Burton movies, particularly in its portrayal of Gotham City.

While they lacked the gritty gothic look of the two Burton films, they also didn't look like the were shot on film studio lot which is very apparent in first two films.

 

[RoJoHen]

Personally, the fact that Gotham City was so obviously Chicago was one of my favorite parts of these movies.

 

[Trekker4747]

If I had to rank the live action Batman movies, my list would be:
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Batman Returns
Batman (1989)
Batman & Robin
Batman Forever

I'm going to assume these are reversed.

My ranking:

The Dark Knight
Batman Begins
Batman 1989
Batman Returns
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Batman and Robin

 

[Broccoli]

That link was hilarious.

My ranking:

Batman '89
Batman Begins/Batman Forever
The Dark Knight
Batman & Robin/Batman Returns

I flipflop on the "slashed" movies depending on what mood I am in.

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

If I had to rank the live action Batman movies, my list would be:
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Batman Returns
Batman (1989)
Batman & Robin
Batman Forever

I'm going to assume these are reversed.

Not at all. While I don't think camp is an appropriate approach for Batman, I at least respect Batman & Robin for going all the way with it. It allows it to fall so far that it actually hits rock bottom and bounces back up into so-bad-it's-good territory.

Batman Forever, on the other hand, is too far in the middle. It's neither fish nor fowl. It lacks the appropriate darkness of the Burton & Nolan movies. It totally botches the Harvey Dent story. And yet, it doesn't have any moments of truly delightful stupidity like you'll find in Batman & Robin.

 

[JacksonArcher]

I liked Batman Begins. While I suppose Bruce Wayne's actions aren't entirely realistic, I think it's as realistic and rational an explanation as you're ever going to get for why Batman exists. Ultimately, the reason why I liked it was because it was the only Batman movie that I think truly let us inside Bruce Wayne's psyche.

I would tend to agree. I think a good way of putting it is that while Batman Begins is ironically given the title a movie about Bruce Wayne, The Dark Knight is a movie about Batman.

As for The Dark Knight, I liked its anarchist interpretation of the Joker and its depiction of Harvey Dent's descent into madness. However, I felt like it kinda lost its focus on Bruce Wayne. Nolan seemed more interested in making a straight up crime drama about Harvey Dent & Jim Gordon teaming up to take out the Joker. Batman almost felt like an inconvenience. He was mostly there for the requisite action sequences.

No less than how the first four Batman movies were excercises in showing off Batman's villains. Batman was very much a central player in The Dark Knight, but unlike Batman Begins where it solely focused on Bruce Wayne, The Dark Knight was more of an ensemble movie. It was Batman's movie almost just as much as it was Gordon's or Dent's or The Joker's. I think they all had equal screentime.

 

[Aike]

what does a retard mean I just haven't seen Batman Begins yet.

re⋅tard

  /rɪˈtɑrd, for 1–3, 5; ˈri

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–verb (used with object) 1. to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.
–verb (used without object) 2. to be delayed.
–noun 3. a slowing down, diminution, or hindrance, as in a machine. 4. Slang: Disparaging. a. a mentally retarded person. b. a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard. 5. Automotive, Machinery. an adjustment made in the setting of the distributor of an internal-combustion engine so that the spark for ignition in each cylinder is generated later in the cycle.

 

[Neroon]

what does a retard mean I just haven't seen Batman Begins yet.

re⋅tard

  /rɪˈtɑrd, for 1–3, 5; ˈri

tɑrd for 4/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ri-tahrd, for 1–3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Show IPA Use retard in a Sentence

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–verb (used with object) 1. to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.
–verb (used without object) 2. to be delayed.
–noun 3. a slowing down, diminution, or hindrance, as in a machine. 4. Slang: Disparaging. a. a mentally retarded person. b. a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard. 5. Automotive, Machinery. an adjustment made in the setting of the distributor of an internal-combustion engine so that the spark for ignition in each cylinder is generated later in the cycle.

Infraction has been revoked. After discussion and further review, it looks to me to be a little confusing. The earlier post using the same term was not acted upon before the thread was moved to this forum.

Any further discussion still needs to go to PM.