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Bashir's creepy patient fetish

It is interesting you bring this up. I only just re-watched Explorers a few days ago (the episode where Bashir first meets Leeta as described in your post). As a doctor myself I was appalled at his lack of professionalism. Worse still he does this in full view of Quark's patrons, which could have the added effect of significantly damaging trust from the community he is meant to serve. It was so jarring it completely took me out of the episode for a while and I have not viewed Bashir in quite the same light as I used to in subsequent episodes.

I guess some might argue that a doctor should have a right to be flirtatious in his off-time and it is quite possible that Leeta is not on his patient register and thus not his patient. However, the sleaziness and public display of his conduct are definitely problematic. If he was in a faraway place and no one knew him as a doctor and his patients weren’t likely to be around I would cut him more slack but this was definitely not the case in this scenario and he should have had that awareness.

I don't remember Melora and Crystalis well enough but from what you are saying it sounds like they would not be compatible with contemporary standards about how a medic should behave. If he indeed infringed upon a competent patient's right to decide or abused his influence over them, trying to groom romantic relationships, he would face a severe caution, suspension or even a loss of his licence to practice should someone raise concerns about him to the medical professional body.

He was also often quite happy to discuss patients' private medical issues in the middle of Quark's.
 
Well, I'm not a doctor, nor did I play one on TV, but I've heard doctor's discuss patients' issues, and I know that us flunkies did too.
I mean it's your job.
Who doesn't talk about their job to their friends?

It's generally frowned on to say the least, especially if those patients are identifiable by the information given.
 
It's generally frowned on to say the least, especially if those patients are identifiable by the information given.
Well usually nobody mentioned who it was.
But there was a SGM that was running and stepped on a squirrel, fell and like totally jacked himself up. I think the squirrel was mortally wounded by the way. (How could we not NOT say anything about THAT)
And then I was sitting on our only emergency bed in the place one day because I was very sick to my stomach and dehydrated, and they kicked me out if the room because some LTC had a heart attack. You better believe I talked about that one. But I didn't know the LTC's name.
 
You better believe I talked about that one.

If you are not a medical professional yourself, you have no statutory obligation to maintain patient confidentiality. As a private citizen, you would have to make your own judgement how to handle that information but you would probably not be liable. Now as a member of the armed forces that might be different but I don't really know.

For doctors maintaining confidentiality is sacrosanct and can only be violated in exceptional circumstances when greater harm to others or the public good is likely to result. This is a very old principle by the way, going back to Hippocrates and the earliest formulations of medical ethics. Therefore, you would hope that someone like Bashir who is meant to represent a highly enlightened society would be a paragon of confidentiality and would not gossip or communicate haphazardly about patients in public spaces.
 
more importantly, do you remember Bashir's creepy kissing? I don't know why he kissed so differently to everyone else on the show, it was really uncomfortable to watch. I would post a youtube clip but not sure I want to find one!
 
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who else thinks this is maybe the most cringey scene of DS9?
 
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who else thinks this is maybe the most cringey scene of DS9?

I never noticed especially in that scene in part because I swear that when they showed the final for the first time you could see Ezri's nipple. Never again though in reruns ir the DVD's which means I think they made a mistake and fixed it for future viewings.

Jason
 
I never noticed especially in that scene in part because I swear that when they showed the final for the first time you could see Ezri's nipple. Never again though in reruns ir the DVD's which means I think they made a mistake and fixed it for future viewings.

Jason
Really? I'd have thought deBoer would have been wearing a strapless bra or somesuch?
 
I did not see it on first broadcast, but every shot is gone over closely during editing and again by the network censors before broadcast. I don't think a nipple shot would have slipped by. Also, shooting while some actors are nude requires a closed set, and it seems much more likely that she would have worn a strapless bra or pasties to avoid the additional trouble while shooting.
 
Even though the Bajoran's hated it, DS9 was a remote outpost to the Federation. Frontier medicine and all that. I was more appalled that religion had consumed Bajor and weakened a former high culture over millennia to the point where the Cardassians had taken it with relative ease. Aside from the alien Orbs was there any tech on Bajor besides digging sticks used for planting that was not taken from other cultures as welfare?
 
The temples that we saw looked like pretty fancy architecture that probably took power equipment to build. The ancient city they dug up looked comparable to bronze age Earth (digging sticks would have been stone age).
 
True enough. But then perhaps the fancy temples were just painted-over architecture left from a prior high culture nearer the beginning of their descent? Sort of the way the Sphinx in Egypt seems to far predate "Egyptian" culture and much later re-carved to fit their purposes. Even evidence that the Pyramids predate Dynastic Egypt is piling up.
 
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