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Bana's Make-up in Star Trek XI

Fuck continuity! Eric Bana looks absolutely fucking cool in his evil baddie makeup and that is what matters.
I think Canon is important, its what keeps the Trek universe alive and keeps the story going. I would hate to see Kirk go all metrosexual and watch Spock transform into an emotional pill user
 
Fuck continuity! Eric Bana looks absolutely fucking cool in his evil baddie makeup and that is what matters.
I think Canon is important, its what keeps the Trek universe alive and keeps the story going.
No, it's not.

I would hate to see Kirk go all metrosexual and watch Spock transform into an emotional pill user
And from where do you get the impression that they are doing that?
 
Bana might be wearing a bit of a forehead, but it looks nothing like the TNG Romulan forehead.
 
I don't even see a ridge on his forehead. Looks very plain to me. I think some are seeing things that aren't there.
 
And even BETTER explanation is that Romulans have NEVER had ridges, and just like in Balance of Terror, they look exactly like Vulcans.

Nope. It's inconsistent with canon. :)

Bana's makeup in the photo includes an obvious forehead ridge.

Romulans with ridges are inconsistent with canon.


Ridges are canon.

Non-ridged Romulans are also canon.

Why is it so difficult for some fans to recognize that Trek canon is internally inconsistent?

The concept of "canonicity" may somehow imply consistency to some people, but that is not what it means - not at all. "Star Trek's" canon is shot through with contradictions and inconsistencies - always has been, always will be - and it's not the first example of such.
 
Ridges are canon.

Non-ridged Romulans are also canon.

Why is it so difficult for some fans to recognize that Trek canon is internally inconsistent?

The concept of "canonicity" may somehow imply consistency to some people, but that is not what it means - not at all. "Star Trek's" canon is shot through with contradictions and inconsistencies - always has been, always will be - and it's not the first example of such.

What's always irked me about Star Trek is so many of the alien races all have one look. (To that end, thank God for Tuvok.) I suppose it's done to create consistency, so a viewer knows when he's seeing a Klingon or an Andorian, but it's so false. The human race is incredibly varied. Why can't the aliens be such?

There are probably billions of Romulans in the Trek universe. They can't all look like Moe Howard, can they?
 
Doesn't matter. Once ridged Romulans showed up in The Neutral Zone episode of TNG ridges became canon. Canon doesn't = consistent.
 
Nope. It's inconsistent with canon. :)

Bana's makeup in the photo includes an obvious forehead ridge.

Romulans with ridges are inconsistent with canon.


Ridges are canon.

Non-ridged Romulans are also canon.

Why is it so difficult for some fans to recognize that Trek canon is internally inconsistent?

The concept of "canonicity" may somehow imply consistency to some people, but that is not what it means - not at all. "Star Trek's" canon is shot through with contradictions and inconsistencies - always has been, always will be - and it's not the first example of such.
No question about that... the "ridged Romulans" thing in TNG was something which we older guys, I'm sure, remember causing a HUGE firestorm when we first saw 'em.

There are a million possible ways to address this inconsistency... from saying that the old ones were "wrong" to saying that the new ones are "wrong" to saying that it's a matter of mutation or genetic manipulation or (my preferred solution) an indication of interbreeding between the native Reman population and the immigrant Vulcan population.

The thing is... adding additional inconsistencies doesn't make the situation any better, does it? It makes things MORE confusing, not less.

As a general rule... adding confusion to the "franchise" can't possible HELP it, can it? All that can do is further fracture the "fan base." Which may not be enough to have a dramatic effect on the chances of this one film, but it certainly can't help it, either, can it?
 
Bana seems to have a small ridge thing, but it looks nothing like the TNG forehead. He would be a third variety of Romulan.
 
Doesn't matter. Once ridged Romulans showed up in The Neutral Zone episode of TNG ridges became canon. Canon doesn't = consistent.

You're talking to a guy that doesn't accept TNG in the canon of Star Trek, so :p :evil:

You don't get to vote on what's "canon" - there's a proper definition of it, and your proposal doesn't fall within the bounds of that definition.

Ridged Romulans and ridgeless Romulans are both canon. Period, end of debate.
 
Why is it so difficult for some fans to recognize that Trek canon is internally inconsistent?
The concept of "canonicity" may somehow imply consistency to some people, but that is not what it means - not at all. "Star Trek's" canon is shot through with contradictions and inconsistencies - always has been, always will be - and it's not the first example of such.

Exactly. The screen writers have always been allowed to overwrite the ST canon if it means their script will tell a better story.

The concept of ST canon is for the writers of licensed ST tie-ins: novels, comics, short stories and RPG scenarios.

The only reason Richard Arnold started to remind fans about ST canon at ST conventions and in "ST Communicator" was because people were challenging Gene Roddenberry as to why episodes and movies of ST seemingly often ignored new tech, events and characters from the licensed tie-ins.
 
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