Bajoran Wormhole dimensions and side effects

[Raul]

Do we have some information about the Bajoran wormhole real dimensions in the collapsed and opened forms?
Furthermore, how does the wormhole affects nearby starships when opening and collapsing?

Thanks in advance

Edit: corrected an error - "real dimensions"

 

[at Quark's]

what is a 'real' Bajoran wormhole?

AFAIK, wormholes are still speculative constructs ....

 

[Raul]

what is a 'real' Bajoran wormhole?

AFAIK, wormholes are still speculative constructs ....

Ok, Bajoran wormhole real dimensions...

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

That's actually an interesting question, sometimes the wormhole looks outrageously huge and sometimes it looks like it's the perfect size for just the Defiant.

 

[Tosk]

The mouth of the wormhole presumably opened up at different sizes depending on the object traveling through. Witness a runabout versus a Dominion fleet.

 

[Timo]

Also, it always opens in the direction of the eager entrant. Except it never really does - the entrant flies in on a graceful curve that looks better, only aligning with the wormhole axis (that is, the normal to the disk that is the mouth) for the final run. Why aren't we getting more scenes where the wormhole awkwardly opens facing more or less completely away from the ship?

Perhaps the direction of opening is chosen specifically to avoid collateral damage, with the convenience of the intended user just one of the many parameters being considered? The phenomenon is a construct under conscious control, after all, not a "natural" one, or so we are led to think with all this emphasis on the Prophets.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[at Quark's]

Back then, the wormhole special effects reminded me of some detergent commercials of those years that had similar special effects.

Perhaps the wormhole is just that - an automatic vessel wash.

As such, it probably should adjust to the size of the vessels entering and exiting it.

 

[Raul]

Back then, the wormhole special effects reminded me of some detergent commercials of those years that had similar special effects.

Perhaps the wormhole is just that - an automatic vessel wash.

As such, it probably should adjust to the size of the vessels entering and exiting it.

Ok, but in this way it seems to be a paradox. When opening for incoming ships, it shouldn't know how big it has to be. Maybe it is driven by the insight of the Prophets.

 

[Artoo Atari]

I would imagine if that question ever came up onscreen in an episode, the Science Officer would probably say it couldn't be measured because the distortion in spacetime or something like that.

I dunno. Don't ask me. I'm a doctor Jim, not a physicist.

 

[Raul]

Ok, so we have some ideas about what happen when a ship enter or exit from the wormhole.
But in the "stand by" form, do we know something about his dimensions? It's just a point, few millimeters of size?

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

The wormhole changes in size depending on the ship about to enter it, we've seen it go from being a little larger than a Danube-Class runabout to be able to accommodate a Galaxy-Class starship.

 

[at Quark's]

And beyond. Remember they meet that dominion fleet inside the wormhole? Looked like those ships were in formation even there, they didn't need to queue to get through....

 

[tomswift2002]

Ok, so we have some ideas about what happen when a ship enter or exit from the wormhole.
But in the "stand by" form, do we know something about his dimensions? It's just a point, few millimeters of size?

As I recall from the “Sword of Stars” episode, prior to the comet going through the wormhole simple closed, and they were unable to even get a subspace message through, but after the comet the wormhole was left open enough for subspace messages to transverse.

 

[tomswift2002]

And beyond. Remember they meet that dominion fleet inside the wormhole? Looked like those ships were in formation even there, they didn't need to queue to get through....

Even exiting the wormhole, the Dominion appeared to stay in formation.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

You know, this is the first time it's ever occurred to me.

What is stopping the Dominion from just blasting a giant chroniton beam into the wormhole from the other side and killing all the Prophets? Did their intel fail to learn things that Rom knew?

 

[tomswift2002]

You know, this is the first time it's ever occurred to me.

What is stopping the Dominion from just blasting a giant chroniton beam into the wormhole from the other side and killing all the Prophets? Did their intel fail to learn things that Rom knew?

How did they know that that wouldn’t collapse the wormhole as well? If you want to conquer a place you don’t destroy your only way of access.

 

[Tosk]

When opening for incoming ships, it shouldn't know how big it has to be.

Why not? If the wormhole senses a ship or ships nearby and knows to open, why is it a stretch to think it also senses the mass involved?

 

[Timo]

..."Sensing" not necessarily involving any complicated processes: it could be as natural as the surface of the water "knowing" how big a splash it needs to make for a given size of a rock thrown in.

But in this case, there are sentient beings involved, capable of, well, sensing in the usual, uh, sense.

The "natural" hole we see in TNG "The Price" manifests a bit differently, and apparently doesn't react to spacecraft or other objects in the vicinity at all. But we've seen such a broad variety of spatial anomalies that we can't exactly claim that Prophets Driving is the reason for the behavior of the Bajoran wormhole and the Barzan one is the natural norm.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[BillJ]

Who cares? x Who cares? x Who cares?

 

[tomalak301]

This thread just made me wonder, could you get lost in the wormhole? Was it always a tunnel surrounded by those eddys. What if you were traveling and then for some reason in the wormhole you turned right.