I actually wonder if anyone has been idiotic enough to take the ranking system here literally and tried to pull rank before
Backdoor pilot?
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We can but hope. A mirror Georgiou show will bomb. Badly.
Couple of things:
I absolutely love the bridge set. I think more future Trek series should introduce some f_in color on their sets. But I don't want an entire series about that.
The only character that IMO really works is Captain Pike. He's a goddamn delight. SPock worked better with the beard. In this scene, he comes more across as an imitation. Didn't help that he flubbed his first line. This is honestly the acting I expect from James Cawleys "Star Trek continues". Not from an official series.
No opinion on Nr. 1 - she's been servicable in the few scenes she had to act in. But it was IMO nothing to write home about. It looks like she's a bit confused on wether she should act in a "modern" television show, or overact like in a throwback to a 60s show. I absolutely hate that they made Yeoman Colt an alien. If you're casting the "the cage"-crew - especially if your motivation is to "sync up with canon" - cast the goddamn "the cage"-crew. You can fill aliens into other positions that weren't originally there in the old episode.
Also - I absolutely don't like that Enterprise model. The dark grey simply IMO doesn't work on the original model. It looks like a cheap fan-render.
Overall, I immensely enjoyed the appereance of the Enterprise on DIS. But I honestly don't want a whole show. I'm absolutely burned out on prequels at this point. And with the exception of one character - Pike - there is nothing that really makes me want a new series about that.
Sure, like Discovery was supposed to have bombed. And was supposed to have been immediately cancelled. And then Cancelled after season one? And then cancelled after season 2. We've heard this all before.
Flubbed lines don't make their way into final cuts, especially not a first line, and a short one at that. The line sounds fine and the director got what they wanted, or they would have done another take.
What he said. Things may change but TV shows don't just pop out of nowhere; there's anything from chatter to Hollywood Reporter/Variety/Deadline articles reporting it. Anson Mount even said recently "I don't know anything you don't" when talking about the possibility of a Pike series.
If it's going to happen, we'll hear about it sometime after the Picard show production gets further underway. That appears to be CBS' priority at the moment.
A Pike-Enterprise limited series would be great, whether it's 10 episodes or 6 episodes or whatever. That would just be a 10-hour or 6-hour movie. Considering they built the Enterprise bridge set, I think a series -- at least a limited one -- is likely.
I know one original idea (way back) was for Discovery to be an anthology series, but maybe they've decided to do anthologies taking place in the Star Trek universe in general. The Picard Series is (so far) just a 10-episode series -- although they claim it is set up to potentially go for additional seasons. Add a Pike-Enterprise limited series, and then maybe another limited series along the way, and the Star Trek universe would be successfully "anthologilized" (yes, I made up that word).
A group of Anthology-style limited series (rather than a multi-season series) would also allow them to bring on big-name actors who can fit filming 6 to 10 episodes into their schedule instead of those actors needing to commit to multiple seasons of filming.
I know one original idea (way back) was for Discovery to be an anthology series, but maybe they've decided to do anthologies taking place in the Star Trek universe in general. The Picard Series is (so far) just a 10-episode series -- although they claim it is set up to potentially go for additional seasons. Add a Pike-Enterprise limited series, and then maybe another limited series along the way, and the Star Trek universe would be successfully "anthologilized" (yes, I made up that word).
A group of Anthology-style limited series (rather than a multi-season series) would also allow them to bring on big-name actors who can fit filming 6 to 10 episodes into their schedule instead of those actors needing to commit to multiple seasons of filming.
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Fluffing up Game of Thrones is really funny to hear. Yeah their episodes are longer. So what? I bet the scripts are about the same length. And how much extra time does it take to leave the camera on for an extra couple minutes for all those lingering shots?
You want a show that skimps on production and offers up short shooting schedules? go watch Orville.
Most of Game of Thrones is just people talking in rooms, with a much lower overall action quotient than Discovery. The big action shots tend to be limited to one episode per season. So far this season, for example, the first episode had maybe a minute of action total, and the second episode had absolutely none.
Discovery has had a season of 15 episodes and a season of 14 episodes. The most episodes Game of Thrones has had in a season is 10. This season there are only 6 episodes.
The Picard show is 10 episodes and yes is potentially taking 8 months to film, but first seasons always take longer.
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I've never tried to pull rank, but I *did* try to get people doing a little bit of roleplay based on the ranks at one point. It didn't take. And honestly, if it had, what would we do with the rank "Premium Member"? And what of Lazarus? What... of... Lazarus?
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Yeah -- The 8 months between start of filming and the tentative premiere date doesn't mean Patrick Stewart (or any actor) will be on set for 8 months. Filming is set for 5 months.
However, even that does not mean a continuous 5 months of filming, and/or requiring any actor to be there for all of those 5 months. There is likely other stuff going on that requires that length of production time, and they will likely schedule the actors' required presence efficiently.
Agreed. It was cool in the same way the DS9 TOS set episode was. I'm not sure I want to see a whole series based on it. It's amazing 3 series and 4 movies managed to tell stories set a century after TOS with new crews and a new status quo, yet modern Trek (with the exception of the in production Picard show) seems stuck in the TOS era and unable to move on.
GoT is vastly more ambitious in scope than STD, and films many locations during a season. STD is largely stagebound.
Eight months of production for this much of this kind of studio product is just bizarre. But folks responsible never run out of excuses...until somebody gets canned.
The Berman era wrung every bit of juice out of the TNG-era and 22nd century continuities that they could, and the other "times" that have been briefly visited aren't much more than cardboard backdrops. All the action seems to be in Kirk and Spock's world. Funny, that.
As I mentioned in a post above, a limited series with Pike's Enterprise would be great. Maybe one 10-episode mini series, or one 6-episode miniseries first then another 6-episode miniseries following a couple of years later.
I tend to agree that I wouldn't want to see much more than that of Pike's Enterprise.
I'm of the opinion that the TOS "universe" is a big place, and a 23rd-century series can still have unique and interesting stories that take place adjacent to the TOS mythology without needing the detailed callbacks to TOS -- detailed callbacks that require the writers to go through hoops.
Having said that, I do see jumping ahead to the 32nd (or whenever) century as a way of introducing a whole new mythology upon which Star Trek could build with new series following DSC. Even if this series ends with the Discovery getting home (although there is no reason why it needs to end that way), we viewers will already be exposed to the world that is the 32nd century, and we will able to be presented with potential new series taking place in that setting.
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True, though so far Discovery has yet to prove this and exist on its own merits. Hence why the writers felt it necessary to send the characters a 1000 years in the future.
Agree completely. I think DSC has done well to fill out the mythos of TOS, which remained largely unexplored in terms of actual time on screen. It strains credulity for me that one ship and one crew is representative of an entire era of a show. Variation should be expected not decried.