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Babylon 5: The Unanswered Questions

Why, in The Deconstruction of Falling Stars, was Earth's sun dying only a million years into the future. Sol has billions of years of life left (naturally at least).

It has my vote for best overall single episode, as in non-arc single episode story. :techman:

Bri :rommie:
 
JMS indirectly said in a online post that an unnamed enemy of humanity was opening jumpgates inside the sun over and over causing it to explode and take out Earth, hence the hurried evacuation.
 
JMS indirectly said in a online post that an unnamed enemy of humanity was opening jumpgates inside the sun over and over causing it to explode and take out Earth, hence the hurried evacuation.

Wierd. At that point humans are like Vorlons, who would mess with them?

Some evolved Drakh? :eek:

Bri :rommie:
 
Maybe it was The Hand! :D Or more likely, renegade humans using Shadow Tech or their own developed tech.
 
It's been a million years, I'm sure humans weren't the only race to survive that long.

While we're on the subject, was that guy actually human or had humans and minbari become one race by then? I ask because I'm pretty sure Tim Earl's design of the encounter suit had a minbari style head crest. Not sure if it was on the final CG model as we never got a blear look at the thing. Not that you could tell anyway since he's really just a ball of energy. Which also makes me wonder if they had actually evolved past the Vorlons, so something more closely resembling Loien since he also did the switch from solid form to light ball and both the Vorlons and the Shadows still had some degree of a physical form and anatomy.
 
It's been a million years, I'm sure humans weren't the only race to survive that long.

While we're on the subject, was that guy actually human or had humans and minbari become one race by then? I ask because I'm pretty sure Tim Earl's design of the encounter suit had a minbari style head crest. Not sure if it was on the final CG model as we never got a blear look at the thing. Not that you could tell anyway since he's really just a ball of energy. Which also makes me wonder if they had actually evolved past the Vorlons, so something more closely resembling Loien since he also did the switch from solid form to light ball and both the Vorlons and the Shadows still had some degree of a physical form and anatomy.

Hmmm, just thought. Did the Vorlons have video records of their own ancient history spanning millions of years. Wonder what they looked like before they became energy beings...
 
While we're on the subject, was that guy actually human or had humans and minbari become one race by then?

I've always thought they had since it was implied all through the series that the Minbari were a dying race and, in order to survive, had to combine with the other half of their souls -- humans. The birth of David Sheridan was the first step in that process.

Then again, we could say that Jeffery Sinclair/Valen having progeny was really the first step.
 
While we're on the subject, was that guy actually human or had humans and minbari become one race by then?

I've always thought they had since it was implied all through the series that the Minbari were a dying race and, in order to survive, had to combine with the other half of their souls -- humans. The birth of David Sheridan was the first step in that process.

Then again, we could say that Jeffery Sinclair/Valen having progeny was really the first step.

I don't think it was ever implied that the Minbari were a dying race and JMS did say that the Minbari do make to the end.

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/us/guide/088.html

Did the future humans leave the galaxy as the Vorlons did?
No point in leaving the galaxy; stars go nova, it only affects the immediate vicinity (big as that is). By this point, they were in the position of the Vorlons, and now have to take their (our) place guiding the younger races, the next wave, while not getting in the way and remembering the lesson of the shadow/vorlon conflict.
What about the other races?
The Minbari eventually make it; the Narn and Centauri do not. They don't die out, they just don't hit a state of First One-ishness, which is darn close to immortality (barring violence).
 
While we're on the subject, was that guy actually human or had humans and minbari become one race by then?

I've always thought they had since it was implied all through the series that the Minbari were a dying race and, in order to survive, had to combine with the other half of their souls -- humans. The birth of David Sheridan was the first step in that process.

Then again, we could say that Jeffery Sinclair/Valen having progeny was really the first step.

I don't think it was ever implied that the Minbari were a dying race and JMS did say that the Minbari do make to the end.

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/us/guide/088.html

Did the future humans leave the galaxy as the Vorlons did?
No point in leaving the galaxy; stars go nova, it only affects the immediate vicinity (big as that is). By this point, they were in the position of the Vorlons, and now have to take their (our) place guiding the younger races, the next wave, while not getting in the way and remembering the lesson of the shadow/vorlon conflict.
What about the other races?
The Minbari eventually make it; the Narn and Centauri do not. They don't die out, they just don't hit a state of First One-ishness, which is darn close to immortality (barring violence).

In pre-production material, JMS and others make reference to the Minbari as a dying race, hence the cooler look of their technology and artifacts.

Moreover it's more or less stated in "Points of Departure," when Lennier reveals the reason for the Battle of the Line surrender, he makes mention to lesser birth rates and the diminishing of each generations' souls:

"Over the last two thousand years, there have been fewer Minbari born into each generation. And those who are born do not seem equal to those who came before. It is as if our greater souls have been... disappearing."
They are dying, but not in the Markab sense. Birth rates are plummeting and given the course of time, the Minbari would either be a scattered handful or no more. Moreover, their culture and society has become stagnant. They lack some spark, and it is in their contact and eventual partnership with humanity that the Minbari are able to progress again.

My interpretation is that David Sheridan, or even Sinclair/Valen's progeny, were the first steps to a new hybrid human/Minbari species. Now that doesn't negate the existence of separate human and Minbari races in that faraway future. A tri-culture of human, Minbari, and the hybrids. How perfect is that?

As the Minbari believe, three is sacred.
 
I've always thought they had since it was implied all through the series that the Minbari were a dying race and, in order to survive, had to combine with the other half of their souls -- humans. The birth of David Sheridan was the first step in that process.

Then again, we could say that Jeffery Sinclair/Valen having progeny was really the first step.

I don't think it was ever implied that the Minbari were a dying race and JMS did say that the Minbari do make to the end.

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/us/guide/088.html

In pre-production material, JMS and others make reference to the Minbari as a dying race, hence the cooler look of their technology and artifacts.

Moreover it's more or less stated in "Points of Departure," when Lennier reveals the reason for the Battle of the Line surrender, he makes mention to lesser birth rates and the diminishing of each generations' souls:

"Over the last two thousand years, there have been fewer Minbari born into each generation. And those who are born do not seem equal to those who came before. It is as if our greater souls have been... disappearing."
They are dying, but not in the Markab sense. Birth rates are plummeting and given the course of time, the Minbari would either be a scattered handful or no more. Moreover, their culture and society has become stagnant. They lack some spark, and it is in their contact and eventual partnership with humanity that the Minbari are able to progress again.

My interpretation is that David Sheridan, or even Sinclair/Valen's progeny, were the first steps to a new hybrid human/Minbari species. Now that doesn't negate the existence of separate human and Minbari races in that faraway future. A tri-culture of human, Minbari, and the hybrids. How perfect is that?

As the Minbari believe, three is sacred.

I never thought Lennier was told the whole truth since in reality Sinclair didn't have Valen's soul, he was Valen and they had no explaination for it. If in fact the story were true than Delenn's threat in Severed Dreams was sham, she never would've fired on the human vessels.
 
While we're on the subject, was that guy actually human or had humans and minbari become one race by then?

I've always thought they had since it was implied all through the series that the Minbari were a dying race and, in order to survive, had to combine with the other half of their souls -- humans. The birth of David Sheridan was the first step in that process.

Then again, we could say that Jeffery Sinclair/Valen having progeny was really the first step.

It was my sneaking suspicion that all evolved humans were descended from David Sheridan (who himself was descended for Sinclair, human partially transformed in Minbari, Delenn, a Minbari partially transformed into human, and John Sheridan who had been touched by both a Vorlon, a transcendent being, and Lorien, a godlike being.), but that's really only based on my own speculation.
 
I never thought Lennier was told the whole truth since in reality Sinclair didn't have Valen's soul, he was Valen and they had no explaination for it. If in fact the story were true than Delenn's threat in Severed Dreams was sham, she never would've fired on the human vessels.

Minbari believe in reincarnation of the soul. They wouldn't have a problem taking out one human task force if necessary---but wiping out the entire race would be a different matter.
 
I never thought Lennier was told the whole truth since in reality Sinclair didn't have Valen's soul, he was Valen and they had no explaination for it. If in fact the story were true than Delenn's threat in Severed Dreams was sham, she never would've fired on the human vessels.

Minbari believe in reincarnation of the soul. They wouldn't have a problem taking out one human task force if necessary---but wiping out the entire race would be a different matter.

Minbari don't kill Minbari, I can't see there being any exception to that rule no matter how many lives were involved.
 
I never thought Lennier was told the whole truth since in reality Sinclair didn't have Valen's soul, he was Valen and they had no explaination for it. If in fact the story were true than Delenn's threat in Severed Dreams was sham, she never would've fired on the human vessels.

Minbari believe in reincarnation of the soul. They wouldn't have a problem taking out one human task force if necessary---but wiping out the entire race would be a different matter.

Minbari don't kill Minbari, I can't see there being any exception to that rule no matter how many lives were involved.

Yet that rule, instituted by Sinclair/Valen, was broken during the war between the Religious and Warrior castes. A rule that was quickly tossed aside without much thought by both sides.
 
Minbari believe in reincarnation of the soul. They wouldn't have a problem taking out one human task force if necessary---but wiping out the entire race would be a different matter.

Minbari don't kill Minbari, I can't see there being any exception to that rule no matter how many lives were involved.

Yet that rule, instituted by Sinclair/Valen, was broken during the war between the Religious and Warrior castes. A rule that was quickly tossed aside without much thought by both sides.

I don't think they tossed it aside that quickly or easily and in any event the council was broken by Delenn, which Valen also foretold.
 
It's been a million years, I'm sure humans weren't the only race to survive that long.

While we're on the subject, was that guy actually human or had humans and minbari become one race by then? I ask because I'm pretty sure Tim Earl's design of the encounter suit had a minbari style head crest. Not sure if it was on the final CG model as we never got a blear look at the thing. Not that you could tell anyway since he's really just a ball of energy. Which also makes me wonder if they had actually evolved past the Vorlons, so something more closely resembling Loien since he also did the switch from solid form to light ball and both the Vorlons and the Shadows still had some degree of a physical form and anatomy.

Hmmm, just thought. Did the Vorlons have video records of their own ancient history spanning millions of years. Wonder what they looked like before they became energy beings...

Well, we saw their true form when they took out Ulkesh and he looked like a radial symmetrical cephalopod like creature, about 6-9 feet in length with a number of tentacle like apendages around the equator, the tail and a triangular head with two glowing eyes. So a bit like the Elder Things" from 'At the Mountains of Madness'.
They were definatly still corporial, at least in part since Kosh was definatly poisoned. In fact JMS says as much here and here.

It was my sneaking suspicion that all evolved humans were descended from David Sheridan (who himself was descended for Sinclair, human partially transformed in Minbari, Delenn, a Minbari partially transformed into human, and John Sheridan who had been touched by both a Vorlon, a transcendent being, and Lorien, a godlike being.), but that's really only based on my own speculation.

After a million years, it wouldn't surprise me. After all, our most recent common ancestors lived only 170,000 - 200,000 years ago.

I don't think they tossed it aside that quickly or easily and in any event the council was broken by Delenn, which Valen also foretold.
Well for one thing the Sinclair/Valen connection was a tightly kept secret at that point, only those in the grey council and a few others were ever told to the Minbari Captains would have no idea that they'd be technically killing Minbari. Plus of course it was an empty threat, I don't think Delenn seriously belived the Earth Captain would be stupid enough to engage even one Minbari Warcruiser, nevermind three of them plus a medium cruiser of unknown design, not when they have the option of retreat. If he did then it'd be a simple matter to disable the destroyers without killing the entire crew.
 
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