Axanar and Discovery set in the same time-period?

[Philip Guyott]

Any similarity to a Koingin design is coincidence. This is essentially a design produced by Ralph McQuarrie in the seventies for the Enterprise. McQuarrie also worked on Star Wars, so I'd argue it's more Star Destroyer than D7.

So what you are saying is, the new series is going to be a Star Trek/Star Wars crossover?

Cool

In honour of the McQuarrie design I thought I would see what the trailer would be like with Star Wars music and sound effects.

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[mos6507]

The lawsuit predated the CBS show. I don't think they really knew what era it was going to be in until the last few months.

 

[Phoenix219]

That is an assumption I will never be able to make. To believe that a major show in pre production was that unsure of its own content until this recently seems a little unbelievable to me, and makes the whole company look pretty uncoordinated.

 

[mos6507]

That is an assumption I will never be able to make. To believe that a major show in pre production was that unsure of its own content until this recently seems a little unbelievable to me, and makes the whole company look pretty uncoordinated.

Come on. Think of all the rumors not that long ago circulating that the suits considered Prime Continuity over and done with. Then add in the quickie render of the Discovery at comic-con. This show did not have a finished blueprint setup for it that far back.

 

[Firebird]

That is an assumption I will never be able to make. To believe that a major show in pre production was that unsure of its own content until this recently seems a little unbelievable to me, and makes the whole company look pretty uncoordinated.

Gene Roddenberry put together his series proposal for Star Trek in March 1964. The pilot was before the cameras by December. Assuming that same sort of timeline, and filming beginning for DSC in September, I'd say it's a fair bet that the show concept wasn't arrived at until January or February, well after Alec was served papers.

 

[Phoenix219]

Thats the thing, Prime Continuity is a misnomer in this case.... its a shared history pre TOS that (as per the new movie) blatantly includes the all of Enterprise.... its as much Prime Continuity as it is Kelvinverse.... what they call it or what suits say about in universe timelines is rather moot imo, in whatever they were developing. It may not have had a finished blueprint but it had a general idea of what it wanted to do, i'm sure, and that is enough. Who knows, either one of us could be right... that's half the fun of speculating

 

[Firebird]

It may not have had a finished blueprint but it had a general idea of what it wanted to do, i'm sure, and that is enough.

If you read Roddenberry's "Star Trek Is..." document, it's pretty evident that it's a general idea for the series, very far from being a definite blueprint. Most showrunners would tell you that they never go into developing a series with a network with anything other than general ideas, because of the attrition rate in creating the show. Though the show was announced as being in the works in November 2015, Fuller wasn't brought in as showrunner until late January 2016. This points to the actual development period happening after the lawsuit happened. I strongly doubt the new series had anything to do with the lawsuit.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The top of CBS is money people, not creative.

One day last year, they said "Shit, we have this license we are not using. We should use it or sell it, because letting "STar-Trek" sit there doing nothing for one more second is unacceptable."

After that, either they hired one guy, because of his reputation or that person's standing relationship with Star Trek/CBS... Which is how you could have a Star Trek that really had no idea who it was or where it was set until almost very recently after the Axanar stuff hit the fan.

Or they got 3 to 10 different creative people to pitch Star Trek to them in competition, and the board, or a management steering subcommittee tasked with finding a new guy to "handle" Star Trek for the board of CBS.

You've seen a Studio pitch before. Trying to get reaction out of a suit with no soul in 35 words or less. How do you sell yourself as the new heart of Star Trek without clearly stating that your new show is 100 years after Picard, or 200 years before Kirk.

That music was Klingon.

That ship is Klingon.

This is a show about Klingon's in the Federation?

Oh.

I get it.

Discovery is Star Trek meets Sliders.

The prime Universe exploring alternate realities, which is how one comes across a Federation/Klingon hybrid like that.

"Sigh"

 

[Phoenix219]

Star Trek Sliders.... well thats one way to never have to worry about canon ever again....

 

[Mudd]

That is an assumption I will never be able to make. To believe that a major show in pre production was that unsure of its own content until this recently seems a little unbelievable to me, and makes the whole company look pretty uncoordinated.

Not that unusual, actually, particularly for Star Trek.

TNG was announced in mid-October of 1986, premiered in early October of 1987. At the time of announcement, they had nothing but a title. Nothing - oh, they generally thought it would take place about 150 years after TOS, that was it. Roddenberry didn't know whether he wanted to have a spaceship in it.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Gene didn't have to prove he had a good idea, because he could coast on his reputation and established credibility.

I saw that Documentary made last year about the principle production of TNG.

Wing and a prayer.

 

[Karzak]

It doesn't matter when the new show is set. Either way Peters will find some way to

1) Make it about himself.
2) Portray himself as the victim.
3) Blame everyone else for his colossal, blithering ineptitude.

Count on it.

 

[Steve Roby]

4) There will still be Axanar Marines who will continepue to spread the Axanar party line.

 

[SPCTRE]

I have this idea that maybe Discovery is a long-lost prototype starship found in a post-apocalyptic distant future and launched with the aim being to found a second federation. fund new fan productions

is where I thought that sentence was going

 

[Jedi_Master]

The reasons CBS/P "went after" Axanar are summed up in one handy legal document.

As for whether or not Axanar was somehow "encroaching" on the era that will be explored by ST: Discovery that's idle speculation that inadvertently hyper-inflates the value, impact, and importance of a "fan film" that will never be made.

 

[Guy Gardener]

108,000 people have viewed a webseries called The Romulan Wars, since 2012.

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