AWOL Enterprise?

[Chris_Moderato]

I suppose some reference in Insurrection, contextually fitting, would have been sufficient. Given the super high losses incurred by the Federation during the opening phases of the war, it would make sense that their flagship would play a more prominent role.

It's not a big deal, but just something I thought curious.

 

[Timo]

So, is there anything anywhere in the movies to suggest that the E-E remained a flagship or otherwise important?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

The Vietnam war involved several incidences where the various players met for peace talks even as their militaries were shooting at each other. No reason why it can't happen again.

Mark

 

[Timo]

...Indeed. But no pressing reason why it should happen, as the Dominion was winning royally at most timepoints of the war, and only faced defeat at the very end. They might negotiate with those factions that had not yet made up their minds, but they'd be unlikely to offer the Federation any way out of the impending total subjugation. A peace treaty, no matter how favorable, would not be in their interests.

At Vietnam, both sides had something of a mutual understanding to begin with. The Dominion conflict, with all the fanaticsm involved, sounds more like WWII where Germany and Japan refused to speak with anybody. Any of the pragmatic Vorta who might try diplomacy to save their skins would be cast in the role of Rudolf Hess, ignored both by their masters and their opponents (much like Weyoun VI was).

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Captain Intrepid]

Timo said:
...Indeed. But no pressing reason why it should happen, as the Dominion was winning royally at most timepoints of the war, and only faced defeat at the very end. They might negotiate with those factions that had not yet made up their minds, but they'd be unlikely to offer the Federation any way out of the impending total subjugation. A peace treaty, no matter how favorable, would not be in their interests.

I'm sure that they alway would have some level of diplomatic contact, if only to keep offering to let the Federation unconditionally surrender.

 

[Timo]

Would that tie down the entire Federation Diplomatic Corps, though? I'd assume something more complex would be required to force Picard to "step in" like he claims he's doing. (Not that we'd really know whether his ST:INS mission was exceptional or not.)

Timo Saloniemi

 

[kipron]

misskim86 said:
If they couldn't bring in the whole crew they could have brought in Picard atleast, maybe we would just seen him on a monitor saying he can't help since Enterprise is under heavy fire or something

If not Picard, they could've at least shown Troi or Barclay - they showed up in Voyager often enough.

 

[Slappy The Vulcan]

I seem to remember a couple of Novels that dealt with the enterprise and the dominion war, they dealt with picard and co. going deep undercover to stop the dominion from buildin an artificial wormhole, or something..I believe they were intertwined with the retake of ds9 episodes timeline wise.

 

[Chris_Moderato]

Good God, the less Barclay the better.

 

[Cyke101]

I know we've talked about fame earlier in this thread, and that there's no real proof that the E-E is the flagship, but I'm wondering if, had the E-E been in some of the major engagements, would the Dominion just concentrate a whole crapload of fire on her until she go boom? After all, the Dominion are masters of psychological warfare. If there's a lone ship inspiring hope across the Federation, then you crush that hope and leave everyone in disbelief.

 

[I am not Spock]

Crewman47 said:

Ro_Laren said:
IIRC, there were some TNG novels that explained what the Enterprise was doing during the war. I never read any of them, but

Spoiler: The Battle of Betazed novel

I think that the novel Battle of Betazed dealt with the Enterprise crew. I don't know if the whole ship was involved with that battle or if Deanna just swopped in to save the day. Or maybe they should up afterwards to help with the clean-up. Who knows? Like I said, I've never read any TNG novels that took place during the Dominion War.

Just thought of something but even though Nemesis is set around four years after the War, do you think it might have helped anything continuity wise if they made a comment regarding the Battle of Betazed and it's eventual release from Dominion occupation especially since Troi's own mother is something like Royalty on the planet and may have been involved one way or another with Dominion officials?

For that matter, do we even have evidence that Troi's mother SURVIVED the Dominion occupation of Betazed? I don't recall Lwaxana being mentioned in Nemesis, its been a while since I last saw it.

Also, what about people like Ensign Ro? I know the post-DS9 novels have her in it, but do we have any canon evidence that Ro survived the Jem'Hadar's destruction of the Maquis?

And I've always wondered about Tom Riker... A human prisoner in Cardassian space wouldn't be feeling very secure during the Dominion war.

 

[Jono]

Slappy The Vulcan said:
I seem to remember a couple of Novels that dealt with the enterprise and the dominion war, they dealt with picard and co. going deep undercover to stop the dominion from buildin an artificial wormhole, or something..I believe they were intertwined with the retake of ds9 episodes timeline wise.

They did four novels in a Dominion War series, two were DS9 based, two TNG. The DS9 novels were novelisations of the episodes Call to Arms to Favor the Bold and the two TNG were original stories.