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How do you rate "Avengers: Infinity War"?


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Homecoming 2 actually comes out after the next Avengers. Up next is Ant-Man and Wasp, then Captain Marvel. After that the next Avengers is released, the next Spider-Man will be the first release after Avengers.
Right, which he covers in earlier in the article (what I quoted is his solution at the end). His main point is marketing for films begins more than two months before a film's release, which is well before the release of The Untitled Sequel. Further, the Homecoming is also the first film set after The Untitled Sequel.

Okay, so Groot’s last line...

Who did Groot mean by “Dad”?
Rocket, who he sees as his adoptive father.
 
By the way, I do have friends that are very seriously arguing that Thanos was the environmentalist hero in this movie, and that he did nothing wrong.

https://www.inverse.com/article/44383-avengers-infinity-war-thanos-ethics-philosophy

Obviously ethics aside, his plan wouldn't work because eventually his action would be forgotten and the same issues that he solved would arise again. Perhaps Thanos is immortal, so he would be able to kill everyone as needed.

Now, human beings perform Thanos' actions every hunting season - we know that a deer population would starve with overpopulation, so we allow hunting season to stable off the population. If you talk to some big name hunters, they will always say that they are in it for conservation. Why are we able to rationalize this with deer and not our own population? The only reason is that we consider ourselves to be the custodians of this planet, and a higher form of life than deer. Thanos considers himself the custodian of the universe and a higher being to any other life form. That makes his ethics morally equivalent to our own. He did nothing wrong by our own definitions of morality.
And yet Thanos made sure he survived the snap...Your friends planning on living a long life or they 'leaving' soon to help manage humanity's resources?
 
And that's why Josef Stalin would make a lousy Avenger.
Yeah, the Man of Steel would be better suited to the Justice League.

Obviously ethics aside, his plan wouldn't work because eventually his action would be forgotten and the same issues that he solved would arise again. Perhaps Thanos is immortal, so he would be able to kill everyone as needed.
He doesn’t need to be immortal as long as he has the Time Stone. He can just jump forward and take care of the future now.

Okay, so Groot’s last line...

Who did Groot mean by “Dad”?
It’s confusing since this character is also named Groot, but he isn’t the original Groot. He’s a clone who has been raised from saplinghood by Rocket and the other Guardians.
 
The Russo brothers confirm that Adam Warlock is not in The Untitled Sequel.

"Yeah [Adam Warlock]'s not showing up in our stories," Joe Russo said. "Look, our job as we said a million times is to tell the story of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, not to do direct adaptations of the comics because we're comic book fans. I have no interest as a director in telling a story that's already been told or in seeing one that's already been told. If I know all the events story as they're going to happen then what's the point of going to the film? We want to keep surprising audiences and continue the story that started with Iron Man [...] a decade ago."
It’s confusing since this character is also named Groot, but he isn’t the original Groot. He’s a clone who has been raised from saplinghood by Rocket and the other Guardians.
He's not a clone, but the son of the original Groot. That comes from James Gunn.
 
He's not a clone, but the son of the original Groot. That comes from James Gunn.
Same diff. He doesn't have two biological parents, does he? Only one source of DNA. So he’d have to be genetically identical to his only parent. Ergo, a clone.
 
And yet Thanos made sure he survived the snap...Your friends planning on living a long life or they 'leaving' soon to help manage humanity's resources?
I thought I read somewhere that he did not protect himself. There was a 50 percent chance he'd die too, and that is ok.
 
Same diff. He doesn't have two biological parents, does he? Only one source of DNA. So he’d have to be genetically identical to his only parent. Ergo, a clone.
Just a thought, Gunn may have said he’s not a clone because movie audiences have a poor understanding of what a clone is. In movies, clones usually inherit the memories and personalities of their parents (as in ENT:Similitude).
 
People say a lot of things ( usually self-serving ). They also like killing innocent beings who can't shoot back. These guys wouldn't last long in a fair fight.

The point is that the human race accepts culls as a form of conservation because we see ourselves at the caretakers of our planet. Thanos sees himself as the caretaker of the universe. When you take our own morality and apply it to thanos, he clearly did nothing wrong.

You can argue that he's the hero of the story - sacrificing the only thing he ever loved to save life itself.
 
Or perhaps he saw his father (the 'original' Groot) as he was dissolving.
That overly complicates something that is straight-forward: Groot died in front of Rocket, so it's only natural he would say "I am Groot" ("Dad") because of their adoptive relationship.
 
That overly complicates something that is straight-forward: Groot died in front of Rocket, so it's only natural he would say "I am Groot" ("Dad") because of their adoptive relationship.
Yep. Just like with Quill and Yondu, but from the other direction.
 
Killing half the people on Earth isn't wrong by our own definitions of morality? When your conclusion, like this, is something that makes as much sense as 2+2=5, you should realize that you must have made a wrong turn somewhere along the way.

It's really hard to get understand how a conversation can go forward with someone who needs that explained. At least it would be if it wasn't obvious internet bravado.
 
It's really hard to get understand how a conversation can go forward with someone who needs that explained. At least it would be if it wasn't obvious internet bravado.

Cut it out. It's against board policy to claim trolling, especially when no trolling is occurring.

You are looking at things with a human-centric perspective. It's "wrong" to kill humans seems to be self-evident to you, but is it? It isn't any more wrong for a higher being to kill humans than it is for humans to kill deer.
 
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