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AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel **SPOILERS**

How do you grade The Avengers?


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The only issue I have with this film is the same issue I had with Star Wars: The Phantom Menace. Why would an advanced civilization develop a robotic army that when the command center is destroyed automatically shut down? Our own civilization is moving incrementally toward building an autonomous drone fleet that can operate independently of a command center, and will continue to obey its directive when the command center is either incapacitated or destroyed.

Well, if it is Thanos, and he is like the comics, it kind of makes sense. For all we know the Chitauri are like zombified slaves.

That and if Loki tries to betray him by closing the portal and keeping the army & Earth for himself, the army turns worthless due to the loss of the connection.
It would've been kinda cool if after the portal closes, all the Chitauri turn around and look at the re-grouped Avengers with a kind of "Oh, shi..." expression. Then fade to black and cut to post-battle.
 
The army certainly had a biological component to them. We see their "faces" sometimes when they growl/snarl at the camera and they were clearly biological typical alien-invader faces.

IIRC, the diner in the movie was the "Shawarma Palace"

Indeed. There was a shawarma sign on the far wall.

Seriously? Basically 90% give this an A- or better? While there were a few seriously laugh out loud moments like Hulk smashing Thor, as a movie it was like a B or B- (my vote) at best. True herd mentality on this one.

It was a fun, entertaining, tent-pole movie that's been built up for the last four years featuring popular comic book characters. This movie is something no one would have thought was possible to see happen just 10 years ago when "Spider-Man" basically revived the superhero movie trend.

The movie was filled with good, fun, action (that was comprehensible), fun characters that were well played and Scarlet Johansson's ass in tight leather.

Yes, people over overwhelmingly loved it because it lived up to (or surpassed) everything we've been building up to since Iron Man came out and we knew they were establishing a Marvel Cinematic Universe for an Avengers movie.
 
Seriously? Basically 90% give this an A- or better? While there were a few seriously laugh out loud moments :guffaw: like Hulk smashing Thor, as a movie it was like a B or B- (my vote) at best. True herd mentality on this one.

Well, I didn't know what anyone else voted before I voted, so I don't know how it's a herd mentality. Maybe a telepathic herd, which would be the coolest herd ever.
 
Seriously? Basically 90% give this an A- or better? While there were a few seriously laugh out loud moments :guffaw: like Hulk smashing Thor, as a movie it was like a B or B- (my vote) at best. True herd mentality on this one.

Well, I didn't know what anyone else voted before I voted, so I don't know how it's a herd mentality. Maybe a telepathic herd, which would be the coolest herd ever.

Yeah. "Herd mentality."

I went and saw this movie after only seeing some reviews (both her and professional) and came out of this movie having loved it. It was just an awesome time in the theater.
 
Seriously? Basically 90% give this an A- or better? While there were a few seriously laugh out loud moments :guffaw: like Hulk smashing Thor, as a movie it was like a B or B- (my vote) at best. True herd mentality on this one.

Well, I didn't know what anyone else voted before I voted, so I don't know how it's a herd mentality. Maybe a telepathic herd, which would be the coolest herd ever.

Exactly. I had no idea what anyone else voted before registering my vote. But Othello should feel free to insult the people who disagree with him. Free speech, and all that.
 
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Seriously? Basically 90% give this an A- or better? While there were a few seriously laugh out loud moments :guffaw: like Hulk smashing Thor, as a movie it was like a B or B- (my vote) at best. True herd mentality on this one.
Or maybe we all feel it's that good for reasons you just don't see or agree to. And that's fine, just saying a sideways insult isn't going to add anything to the discussion.

Are all the movies with 90% or better on RT herd mentality?
Toy Story 3
The Dark Knight
Star Trek('09) ;)

Just some recent examples.
 
Wow. Some great concept art in there! I like the one of Thor on the Chrysler Building's spire.

If there's one design complaint I have it's that I think the Helicarrier's bridge was a bit overdesigned and elaborate. (And wildly "overstaffed") The Star Trekian/Defiant-like captain's command center also was just odd to me.
 
Seriously? Basically 90% give this an A- or better? While there were a few seriously laugh out loud moments :guffaw: like Hulk smashing Thor, as a movie it was like a B or B- (my vote) at best. True herd mentality on this one.

Well, I didn't know what anyone else voted before I voted, so I don't know how it's a herd mentality. Maybe a telepathic herd, which would be the coolest herd ever.

Exactly. I had no idea what anyone else voted before registering my vote. But Alidar Jarok should feel free to insult the people who disagree with him. Free speech, and all that.

I got dragged out by friends after deciding Avengers wasn't on my must-see list. I enjoyed it a helluva lot more than any film I've seen recently. I voted here without first checking poll results and gave it an A+.

We've now entered the phase where the movie is so successful that wanna-be hipsters get to make condescending remarks about those of us who are having a good time. [shrugs] Oh well, everyone needs a hobby, I guess. Cheers, Othello! Know that even though we're having a blast talking about the film and seeing it over and over, you're a far, far better man than the rest of us uneducated bumpkins swilling the moonshine equivalent of entertainment.

Are all the movies with 90% or better on RT herd mentality?
Toy Story 3
The Dark Knight
Star Trek('09) ;)

Well, Star Trek was. ;) [ducks]
 
14 years from now:

"Avengers only did $3B in the box office because of lonely comic-book fanboys who went to see the movie 10 times just to look at Scarlet Johansson's ass!"

That, or -you know- it's a really good fucking movie.
 
2.) Why was SHIELD's 'overlords' so bent on nuking New York City? The state government of New York was already sending in National Guard units to fight the intruders, and, eventually, the United States government would commit forces to the battle. (This would imply the battle had been raging for an hour, at least.) The 'overlords' reaction seemed odd to me, especially when it was clear that the intruders were contained to a 3-block radius around the portal. It becomes even more interesting when it is revealed at the end that a nuke could destroy the command center, and that the portal could be shut down by a specter being jammed into the portal generator.

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With an open portal there was no way to know just how many enemy could come pouring through before Thor, Ironman and the Hulk were overwhelmed. To be far even if the National Guard was mobilized before the breech it wouldn't be able to handle a proper earth army with presumably a lower level of technology should it appear in New York. They would have neither the heavy equipment in place nor the ammo for an extended fight.

The enemy was not contained, they had poor generalship and fought Captain America's battle as they went after the Avengers as if they were the only resistance Earth could put up. Yet it was a small point for me of how ground combat Guardsmen could get into the fight in numbers before air units turned up to help Ironman.
 
I don't think anyone is claiming this movie is perfect (most have already acknowledged that the plot isn't the deepest or most complex), but that doesn't mean it still can't be fun and entertaining as hell to watch.
 
A little less than two years pass (on Earth) between the events in "Thor" and the events in "The Avengers." (This according to the Marvel Cinematic Universe Timeline.) Thor destroys the Bifrost in May 2010, The Avengers takes place in February of 2012.

The Asgardian incident happened "last year" according to Nick Fury's dialogue in the movie. And it's pretty obviously not winter in New York City during that final battle. I's say that timeline needs some adjusting.
 
Posted through the MCU's Facebook page:

Shawarma.jpg

This is about the end-end credits shot in The Avengers
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I forgot to mention the 3D in my post about the movie. (again, I really liked it - an A- grade).

But, please, Hollywood. Just stop with the crappy post conversions. I'm a HUGE 3D fan if done right. But there were so many shots that had improper 3D. Many reviewers have stated that Avengers was a great conversion. I disagree. Better than some, but still not good enough IMO for a truly immersive and consistent 3D experience of films shot in 3D.

The problem with 3D conversions is that the people doing it have too large of a temptation to really exaggerate 3D effects by making the ocular (eye) distance too large. An example: An early shot of a bridge in NY literally looked like a 12 inch scale model, due to the exaggerated 3D effect. And the effect varies so much from scene to scene. The scene where Loki first appears in the film is also terrible - his forehead looks very close to the camera, while his mouth looks 6ft away. Very odd looking.

I *will* see Avengers again (more than once), but I will definitely seek out 2D showings.
 
Finally saw it a second time (this time in 3D), and enjoyed it even more than before. The issue I had with it being a bit slow and talky in the middle somehow didn't bother me at all this time.

The only complaint I still DO have is just with the lackluster score. It's decent enough and gets the job done, but much as with the Captain America movie, I think it REALLY needed something more thrilling and exciting to take it to that extra level. Maybe something less modern, and more romantic and epic like a Superman or Rocketeer score.
 
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