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AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel **SPOILERS**

How do you grade The Avengers?

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I don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but Loki's "partner" was listed in the credits as "the Other", and was played by Alexis Denisof. Not surprising, considering Whedon's penchant for using actors from his previous projects, but I thought it was kind of neat anyway.
 
Trekker4747 said:
Same here, (aside from superficial reasons) I really liked her in Iron Man 2. In this movie I thought her best scenes were the interrogation scene, her scene with Loki, scene with Hawkeye and her scene in "recruiting" Banner. I guess, really, all of her key scenes seemed very well done and played by her.
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Her action scene "It's gonna be fun" to get to the key moment of the movie where she closes the portal. She was integral at every step.

Bring Banner
Trick the Master Trickster into showing his hand
Get Hawkeye back under control
Close the Portal

Black Widow was not just idle eye candy in this movie at all.
 
True, I've never understood the dismissive nature people assign to her in IM2 either, frankly the whole movie but her especially.
 
I watched IM2 again last night and thought it was just terrific. Maybe not as strong as the original but it was still a damn fun movie. Scarlett was just fine.
 
Captain Craig said:
True, I've never understood the dismissive nature people assign to her in IM2 either, frankly the whole movie but her especially.
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Not much of a fan of IM2, I always felt BW didn't belong in it. The entire film was a letdown from the first IM.

Avengers did a WAY better job with her though.
 
Trekker4747 said:
Anyone else think Thor's reset-button got hit as far as this movie's events are concerned? Consider that everyone else's character got a bit more developed but with Thor his coming back is pretty much hand-waved with an "Ohhh. Odin spent a lot of money to get you here." (or something.) And then at the end the Tesseract is used to bring Thor and Loki back to Asgard with only lip service played to Jane Foster.

It seems like it was like "Uhhh... We need Thor to come back for the movie, but we also need him back stuck in Asgard at the end in order for the next movie to deal with him getting back to Jane/Jane getting to him."

I mean Captain America emerges as a leader and adapts more to life in the 21st century, Tony Stark grows up a bit more (and risks his life to save NYC), Banner gains yet more control of The Hulk and shows himself more of a hero and even Black Widow gets some development. All of this will translate into their next movies. But Thor? Nope. Reset button. He came to Earth for a few days, helped save the world, then he went back home more-or-less like nothing happened.
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Oh, that's not good.
 
I know the Marvel heads haven't publicly mentioned a solo Black Widow film yet, that I've seen but Scarlet thinks one should be done and use Bourne as the template or style. She's had talks with Friege about it but whether that was a courtesy talk or if there is some consideration is yet to bear out.

Scarlett Johansson has revealed that she won't appear in Iron Man 3, but is still hoping to launch a Jason Bourne-inspired Black Widow movie franchise.

The Avengers star told ScreenRant that she has had discussions with Marvel producer Kevin Feige about a Black Widow spinoff.

"I personally think there's an awesome Black Widow movie [to be made]. A Bourne type of film that would take the comic book genre in a completely different direction," he said.

"It would be awesome. I've spoken to Marvel about it, there's so much story there to draw from."
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Black Widow comes off as another character who needs someone to play off of. She doesn't strike me as big enough or interesting enough to have her own movie. They would have to give her movie something special to make it work.
 
Trekker4747 said:
Anyone else think Thor's reset-button got hit as far as this movie's events are concerned? Consider that everyone else's character got a bit more developed but with Thor his coming back is pretty much hand-waved with an "Ohhh. Odin spent a lot of money to get you here." (or something.) And then at the end the Tesseract is used to bring Thor and Loki back to Asgard with only lip service played to Jane Foster.

It seems like it was like "Uhhh... We need Thor to come back for the movie, but we also need him back stuck in Asgard at the end in order for the next movie to deal with him getting back to Jane/Jane getting to him."

I mean Captain America emerges as a leader and adapts more to life in the 21st century, Tony Stark grows up a bit more (and risks his life to save NYC), Banner gains yet more control of The Hulk and shows himself more of a hero and even Black Widow gets some development. All of this will translate into their next movies. But Thor? Nope. Reset button. He came to Earth for a few days, helped save the world, then he went back home more-or-less like nothing happened.
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He might not have gone through any further character growth in the movie, but I wouldn't call that a "reset button" of any kind. This is still the more mature, grown up version of Thor from the end of the previous movie.

And I seriously doubt the sequel is going to pretend that he never made it back to Earth. He'll simply explain to Jane that it was an emergency situation and there wasn't time to say hi (which she should understand, if she had any access to a TV at the time).
 
Agent Richard07 said:
Black Widow comes off as another character who needs someone to play off of. She doesn't strike me as big enough or interesting enough to have her own movie. They would have to give her movie something special to make it work.
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I think it could work, but it would have to be a very different kind of movie. More of a Bourne-style spy movie than a typical superhero movie.
 
I doubt it. Elektra was a questionable spin-off of a mediocre movie done by people who just didn't get it. A Black Widow movie would not only be riding on the success of The Avengers, but would be made by people who proven that they know how to do super-hero movies right.
 
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