AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel **SPOILERS**
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What about a Peter David story for a Joss Whedon script?
That would be cool. I'm sure PAD has a buttload of wonderful stories Joss could adapt. Personally I think they should get William Hurt back for Hulk 2 and have him fight Mark Rufallo as Red Hulk. Save The Leader for Hulk 3.
Can't imagine what Joss Whedon would need with Peter David - he can do the same thing, better, with his left hand.
He really doesn't. 
For the record I never found Rebo and Zooty funny much either.
As for the "best movie ever" and A+ rating. I think it was an A+ for it's entertainment value. I really enjoyed the film, but it isn't the best movie I've ever seen simply because different movies can be very entertaining in different ways. There are a lot of non genre films I really like and have enjoyed immensely, but for different reasons from enjoying films like Spider-Man, Iron Man, Captain America, Casino Royale, Raiders Of The Lost Ark, Alien, the Bourne trilogy and Avengers.
You can also say a film can be objectively great and yet have a personal preference for something else. Batman is my personal all time favourite superhero and I really enjoyed The Dark Knight as much as I enjoyed Avengers. I never really read much of the Marvel characters featured in Avengers, but the film did a very good job of getting me interested nonetheless.
Why does it have to be either/or? Enjoying something immensely doesn't mean you're betraying anything you liked a lot before. It just means it's one more film in your favourites list.
Saw it tonight. Gave it an A.
The Hulk was the star (Ruffalo did a serviceable job as Banner too, but I do mean the Hulk). Downey Jr. was great as always. Evans, Johansson, Renner were all good. I felt Thor was a bit weak. However, I thought he had nice moments. The sense I got was his connection with Loki was so strong that it would risk overpowering the movie. So, to counter that, they had to pull back on Thor to a considerable degree. He had a few good moments during the slow scenes. But, after his initial fight with Loki towards the end, he was limited to a fairly background role after that. Once again, I don't blame them, I'm just saying that it's unfortunate but probably necessary.
Overall, it was quite good. It had a nice buildup that actually paid off well. It had great dialog. Obviously, it did not have strong character arcs, but this movie never would have worked with one. I do think the idea of independent heroes having to go together was an effective theme, especially with Loki the trickster as the villain. The battle in the woods was gratuitous, but in a good way. I'd say it was a movie played well for strong entertainment value.
The Hulk was the star (Ruffalo did a serviceable job as Banner too, but I do mean the Hulk). Downey Jr. was great as always. Evans, Johansson, Renner were all good. I felt Thor was a bit weak. However, I thought he had nice moments. The sense I got was his connection with Loki was so strong that it would risk overpowering the movie. So, to counter that, they had to pull back on Thor to a considerable degree. He had a few good moments during the slow scenes. But, after his initial fight with Loki towards the end, he was limited to a fairly background role after that. Once again, I don't blame them, I'm just saying that it's unfortunate but probably necessary.
Overall, it was quite good. It had a nice buildup that actually paid off well. It had great dialog. Obviously, it did not have strong character arcs, but this movie never would have worked with one. I do think the idea of independent heroes having to go together was an effective theme, especially with Loki the trickster as the villain. The battle in the woods was gratuitous, but in a good way. I'd say it was a movie played well for strong entertainment value.
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Phil Coulson isn't really dead. One of the things we have to remember about his character is that he isn't a a classic Marvel character; his first appearance is in the MCU. We honestly don't know much about him or his background, his motivations or even his purpose. What we do know is that he has resonated with the film-going public.
Coulson is almost like one of the G-Men from Half-Life. Very mysterious. I, for one, hope we haven't seen the last of Coulson.
Coulson is almost like one of the G-Men from Half-Life. Very mysterious. I, for one, hope we haven't seen the last of Coulson.
On the face of it that sounds like a match made in heaven, but I think they're a little too similar. Each has a sensibility for characterisation and whimsy and I don't see that they'd complement each other. David does, however, place a little more emphasis on story (IMHO), and I remember him as having a knack for showing us new sides to existing characters. Maybe he should co-write a Hulk movie or turn in a draft on his own. (Peraps he could disinter the story he allegedly pitched for what became the 2003 movie.) David could probably also work wonders with other properties such as Thor, Iron Man, the FF or the X-Men.
Here's Peter David's review of the Avengers movie.
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I think it is because they all are "super serumed". When Hawkeye took out the turbine, all the "rogue shield" agents were donning breathing masks before he opened the rear ramp to take his shot.
God I loved this film!
Saw it last night. It was very entertaining - emotional stakes, high energy, and very funny too. Hulk stole the film for me, and I loved Black Widow too.
They did a great job of meshing all of the different superheros in one fighting unit, and it was so much fun along the way! Probably my favourite Marvel film at the moment.
Saw it last night. It was very entertaining - emotional stakes, high energy, and very funny too. Hulk stole the film for me, and I loved Black Widow too.
They did a great job of meshing all of the different superheros in one fighting unit, and it was so much fun along the way! Probably my favourite Marvel film at the moment.
I saw it again yesterday, with my wife. My earlier review still stands: a very well balanced action film.
Yeah, I sort of figured maybe Hawkeye's possession by Loki granted him powers, but then realized Hawkeye and Black Widow (at least in comics) have something akin to the super-soldier serum. (But, we could argue we don't know that's the case in the movies.)
It seems like something that should have been addressed, though, because there are plenty of scenes where we see people exposed to the outside at altitude with no apparent problems.
Morena Baccarin
I know it's faithful to the comics, but that helmet/headdress of Loki's looked kinda dumb.
Weren't you complaining about people changing Superman's outfit? I would have thought you would have liked comicbook faithfulness at all costs.
Behind the scenes of the after credits scene
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/05/04/backstory-avengers-secret/3/
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/05/04/backstory-avengers-secret/3/
I didn't find Loki's helmet dumb at all, and was surprised by that. It looks kind of regal if anything. Cap's uniform worked better than expected, too.
No wonder Ruffalo looked like he was about to burst out in laughter during that final scene. Actually you can tell they are look like they are trying their hardest not to laugh.
Agreed. As good as Ruffalo was, I still think the Hulk is too one-note a character to build an entire movie around. Banner is either trying hard NOT to turn into the Hulk, or he IS the Hulk and is destroying everything around him.
And... that's pretty much all there is.
And there's only so many times you can explore the "rage within" theme. Yes, we get it already.