Ah, I was wondering about that after Fury mentioned the MRD in one of the micro-episodes. But I checked and found that the MRD exist in the comics as well, so I wasn't sure if it was a W&tXM reference.
Avengers: EMH 1.1/1.2 "Breakout" pts 1&2
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Ah, I was wondering about that after Fury mentioned the MRD in one of the micro-episodes. But I checked and found that the MRD exist in the comics as well, so I wasn't sure if it was a W&tXM reference.
Yeah. Sorry about that.
Still, I don't mind the name change (which isn't unusual for Modok, as it's gone back and forth within comics and TV. Besides, "Conquest" is more accurate to describe his plans for world domination, not just killing things.
Re: Avengers: EMH "Panther's Quest"
^and Klaw's transformation was confusing and hard to follow. Definitely my least favorite ep so far.
It had some good moments ("I with Thor would answer his phone") and the Wasp continues to be my favorite character. They've nailed Cap perfectly so far, IMO. Despite this ep not being quite as good as what's come before, I think that the team clicks a lot better now that they have Cap on the team. I'm glad that they didn't wait long to bring him in.
I now Tony is supposed to be arrogant, overconfident and cocky, but it felt to me that they dumbed him down a little bit in order to spotlight Hank. I realize that this ep picks up threads from the Ant-Man/Wasp/Black Panther mini-eps, and thus prominently spotlighting Hank is appropriate, but it made Tony seem just a tad... off.
The Black Panther kicked ass. But then, he's supposed to kick ass. It seemed kind of odd that he would regain his throne from usurpers only to immediately leave again with the Avengers. I know he wanted Wakanda to be more out in the world, but under the circumstances I would think that he would have some... kingly duties to perform at home first.
I wonder if there is a story reason for Thor's absence in this ep or if it really was simply a case of Thor "not answering his phone"?
Does anyone know if the Hulk will be back for next weeks Gamma-villains at The Cube episode?
^and Klaw's transformation was confusing and hard to follow. Definitely my least favorite ep so far.
It had some good moments ("I with Thor would answer his phone") and the Wasp continues to be my favorite character. They've nailed Cap perfectly so far, IMO. Despite this ep not being quite as good as what's come before, I think that the team clicks a lot better now that they have Cap on the team. I'm glad that they didn't wait long to bring him in.
I now Tony is supposed to be arrogant, overconfident and cocky, but it felt to me that they dumbed him down a little bit in order to spotlight Hank. I realize that this ep picks up threads from the Ant-Man/Wasp/Black Panther mini-eps, and thus prominently spotlighting Hank is appropriate, but it made Tony seem just a tad... off.
The Black Panther kicked ass. But then, he's supposed to kick ass. It seemed kind of odd that he would regain his throne from usurpers only to immediately leave again with the Avengers. I know he wanted Wakanda to be more out in the world, but under the circumstances I would think that he would have some... kingly duties to perform at home first.
I wonder if there is a story reason for Thor's absence in this ep or if it really was simply a case of Thor "not answering his phone"?
Does anyone know if the Hulk will be back for next weeks Gamma-villains at The Cube episode?
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My problem with the whole Black Panther thing is the portrayal of Wakanda as being just the usual Western stereotype of Africa as a bunch of primitive tribesmen, just with a thin veneer of high-tech stuck onto it (I mean, really, spears with circuitry in them? With all their high technology, they can't invent firearms?). Africa is the most geographically, culturally, and ethnically diverse continent on Earth. It has plenty of major cities and sophisticated nations. West Central Africa was a center of learning and culture, home to some of the world's first universities, while Europe was still trying to climb out of the Dark Ages. Heck, Europe wouldn't have been able to climb out of the Dark Ages without the gold it obtained through trade with the powerful kingdoms of sub-Saharan West Africa, kingdoms like Mali and Songhay. And yet the Western media invariably portrays Africa as nothing but a bunch of jungle and savannah with tribesmen living in huts.
Just once I'd like to see a portrayal of Wakanda that more realistically reflects what an advanced African nation would look like rather than perpetuating a bunch of tribalist stereotypes. Instead of the simple-minded and somewhat racist portrayal of the "Man-Ape" guy, maybe they could've recast him as something like the corrupt warlords who perpetuate the civil wars in much of Africa today -- made it not only a less antiquated and ignorant portrayal of African politics, but a more topical one.
Just once I'd like to see a portrayal of Wakanda that more realistically reflects what an advanced African nation would look like rather than perpetuating a bunch of tribalist stereotypes. Instead of the simple-minded and somewhat racist portrayal of the "Man-Ape" guy, maybe they could've recast him as something like the corrupt warlords who perpetuate the civil wars in much of Africa today -- made it not only a less antiquated and ignorant portrayal of African politics, but a more topical one.
^Still, there's so much diversity to African cultures that never gets reflected in the Western media. It's always the same narrow set of cliches that have little relation to reality. I'd just like to see some more research and care put into media depictions of Africa.
Although the "African Storm" episode on X-Men Evolution was even worse in some ways. Even though Storm comes from East Africa, they portrayed her culture as practicing vodoun-like beliefs, a West African religion. Too often, Americans think of Africa as though it's just one country or culture, rather than a whole, incredibly diverse continent.
Although the "African Storm" episode on X-Men Evolution was even worse in some ways. Even though Storm comes from East Africa, they portrayed her culture as practicing vodoun-like beliefs, a West African religion. Too often, Americans think of Africa as though it's just one country or culture, rather than a whole, incredibly diverse continent.
Well, yeah, I know that, but that's not what I was criticizing about the episode.
1) Wakanda was always portrayed as advanced technologically since they first unvield it in the Fantastic Four back in the 1960ies. The only 'retcon' done in the Ultimate version was that tech being plainly visible.
2) On the other poster's comment futher above about Klaw's transformation. Again, pretty much the same as what happened in the FF issue - Klaw's device overloaded in the Vibranium mine; and he was transmuted into a being of pure sound.
I'm actually impressed that they are pretty much sticking to the original Marvel lore - with only the Avengers being substituted in the FF in spots. Although the 'take back Wakanda story WAS a redo of the story where te BP joined the Avengers; and he did use the QuinJet as a decoy.
Has anyone been missing this since the move to Sunday morning? I caught up on "Masters of Evil" and "459" this morning.
I liked "Masters of Evil" and the fact that it was the low-powered Avengers that managed to turn the tide. I liked the exchange between Hawkeye and Black Panther about the Avenger's leadership.
My only real complaint would be that, IMHO, the story should have been a two-parter. Maybe they didn't want to do another two-parter this soon, but this particular story, one reminiscent of one of Roger Stern's classic tales, deserved more development than it got.
"459" focuses on Hank and Jan and they got some good development in the story while not forgetting that this is a team show (interestingly, we only saw the original five members in "459"). I would have rather had the classic Jim Starlin designed Captain Mar-Vell rather than the Ultimate version, but oh well.
I think that it indicates that I spend way too much time in this forum when, twice during "459", I thought to myself, "Wow, Hermiod is really gonna like that!"
I liked "Masters of Evil" and the fact that it was the low-powered Avengers that managed to turn the tide. I liked the exchange between Hawkeye and Black Panther about the Avenger's leadership.
My only real complaint would be that, IMHO, the story should have been a two-parter. Maybe they didn't want to do another two-parter this soon, but this particular story, one reminiscent of one of Roger Stern's classic tales, deserved more development than it got.
"459" focuses on Hank and Jan and they got some good development in the story while not forgetting that this is a team show (interestingly, we only saw the original five members in "459"). I would have rather had the classic Jim Starlin designed Captain Mar-Vell rather than the Ultimate version, but oh well.
I think that it indicates that I spend way too much time in this forum when, twice during "459", I thought to myself, "Wow, Hermiod is really gonna like that!"
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While the episodes have been entertaining, I'm starting to get a little tired of them constantly adding new characters almost every week. I wish they'd do more exploration of the characters they have. I mean, sure, Hank and Jan got some development in "459," but was it ever so much as hinted before that she was interested in him?
(But I did quite like the moment where Carol Danvers's new powers were revealed. "Why is the ceiling so low?")
As for Mar-Vell, I'm happy to dispose of the contrivance that he's from a blue-skinned race but just happens to belong to a pink-skinned minority. Particularly in the context of this compressed storytelling, it would've been too cumbersome to have the first Kree character we meet in the show be unrepresentative of his race's appearance and have to take time to explain why.
(But I did quite like the moment where Carol Danvers's new powers were revealed. "Why is the ceiling so low?")
As for Mar-Vell, I'm happy to dispose of the contrivance that he's from a blue-skinned race but just happens to belong to a pink-skinned minority. Particularly in the context of this compressed storytelling, it would've been too cumbersome to have the first Kree character we meet in the show be unrepresentative of his race's appearance and have to take time to explain why.
Yeah that always bugged the hell out of me in the comics - like "Gee I thought all Kree were white guys." "Nah, they're blue guys, only a few are white guys." "HUh?"
I AM glad they started the build up for Ms. Marvel - I'm really hoping they bring her into the show sooner than later - for a while it felt like Marvel was really trying to make her Marvel's Wonder Woman
I AM glad they started the build up for Ms. Marvel - I'm really hoping they bring her into the show sooner than later - for a while it felt like Marvel was really trying to make her Marvel's Wonder Woman
While I can't argue the point about the skin color, the Starlin costume is one of my all-time favorites. I'd have been happy with blue skin and the Starlin costume.
I read up on Ms. Marvel on Wikipedia and Marvel Database last night, and it sounds from that like they still are, i.e. that Ms. Marvel is currently their most prominent and heavily emphasized female character. (Though from the featured image on both sites' articles, it seems they may be making certain parts of her anatomy a little too prominent. I don't see Carol Danvers as the type to get silicone implants.)
Anyway, I agree with the hope that Ms. Marvel joins the show's team soon. Jan is awesome, but they desperately need more women on the team.
Speaking of Jan, it occurred to me while watching yesterday's episode that this show's character design for her would look much cuter if they just ditched those weird sticky-outy hair things on the sides of her head. Without those, she'd have kind of an Ezri Dax pixie cut, and I think that would look really good. If anyone here could do a photomanipulation of that, I'd be glad to see it.
i'm not a fan of the Sunday move either, i do well to get up before noon as it is. that said i've enjoyed the last few episodes. the Cap Marvel ep was good and set up several future plot lines (potential ones anyway). was glad to see Iron Man took a back seat in that ep too.
They do re-air the new episodes the following Saturday at 9:30 PM.
Given these two statements, you might have mixed feelings about the introduction of Mockingbird (The future ex-Mrs. Hawkeye) in next week's Widow's Sting.
Actually, ever since the media blitz for Iron Man 2 began, that privlidge has belonged to the Black Widow.
There was actually a bit of a (lame) running joke for a time in the comics where all of the villains (and some heroes) were refering to Carol Danvers as being a little fat or on the over-weight side, which might cause *ahem* certain body parts to gain prominence.
