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I love the Brosnan era Bond films! Wish we'd have gotten that 5th one they were moving forward on...till Cubby Broccoli died and the "kids" inherited the Aston Martin only to ditch it in favor of doing Bourne 2.0 for the character.

Wait, where were we now? Oh, yeah!
Cinema.

The Benedict Cumberbatch Doctor Strange conversation has made me despise the word "safe," but I think that's a good word to describe Brosnan as Bond. He did all the Bond things fairly well without doing anything in particular that made his James Bond stand out as different. Given that he was the first James Bond that didn't have source material at least officially based on a particular book, I thought he was a very good choice to give the audience something familiar while they venture out into a new territory.
 
"Safe" is an excellent way to describe Brosnan Bond. I think TWINE is the perfect example of something that, had they dared themselves to push the envelope they could have had something really special.

To that fact, part of me believes that the whole third act was originally written differently, but was changed to be less "edgy."
 
That movie still has some dark moments (which is why I rate it second to Goldeneye in Brosnan Bond movies). Killing Elektra in cold blood being one of them. The villain was halfway decent as well.
 
I flip flop on it a lot, but recently I've come to really love TWINE. For me at least, it was the first time I really "got" what Brosnan was going for with his performance (I never felt his performances in GE and TND were too similar, he was playing to two extremes, but with TWINE he combined both of those performances and gave us a well rounded Bond).

The film itself is uneven, but it's held together by Brosnan's solid performance and Sophie Marceau steals nearly ever scene she is in.
 
Thor's been packing on weight. :rommie: Too much Earth food? :p

Naw, he's just not exercising like he used to. On Migard he as no one to challenge him physically; except the Hulk. On Asgard he has trolls, goblins, dragons, demons, giants and all other manner of beasts to make sport out of.

By the time Ragnorok rolls around, I'm sure he'll be "fit" again. :rofl:
 
And I've now read all of the posts FSM has made over the last couple days, thus I am now sad.

FSM re: your complaints about Cap's escape from the Triskelion, what is your obsession with needing to be shown everything when it comes to a sequence of events? You had a similar argument in the "Interstellar" thread where you complained about the lack of showing every detail and aspect of McConaughey's actions in the tesseract and how it related to events in the movie. The problem being the movie made it pretty clear what was happening without reading too much into it but you seemed to want the movie to literally spell out everything that was going on including the equation data McConaughey was sending.

Here, you seem to want to know the intricate details of how Cap managed to escape the Triskelion garage. Why?! What is to be gained to watch him rush into the garage, get into his bike, adjust the choke and throttle, jump on the starter, have it fail, make these adjustments again. Take the bike of it's stand then accelerate towards the door and then hop the bike over the closing gate. Which OMG!!!! Had a CGI lower portion to it.

Would anything at all have been gained by seeing all of that?

No?

So then why show it?!

You also seem to be taking the word "Cinematic" in the MCU's name a bit too literally in the very Fourth-Year in Columbia University Film School sort of way of meaning an "art form where every frame is crafted with the hair of angels to be utterly perfect in every respect" other than, "yeah, this stuff is live-action rather than ink on paper."

You seem to be taking things a touch too much, man.
Because escapes have to be shown honestly. They spent ten minutes showing his escape from an elevator but none showing his escape from the facility.

Notice how T2 might not have showed us every part of the escape from the mental hospital, but it showed almost every phase of it, all the way too the parking garage.. and the pacing and tension was built up perfectly. Real filmmaking.
 
Notice how T2 might not have showed us every part of the escape from the mental hospital, but it showed almost every phase of it, all the way too the parking garage.. and the pacing and tension was built up perfectly. Real filmmaking.

So every movie needs to be made like T2 since, apparently, that's your barometer for filmmaking?

I don't see what a fight in the garage and seeing Cap start his motorcycle and snake his way up through several floors of an underground parking garage would have added.

Maybe he could've gotten lost along his way! "Was it Blue-12 or Blue-21. Damn, why don't I write these things down?!" "Let's see, dammit! Why do they have that exit-sign pointing that way when the exit isn't down here! Now I have to turn around and try again!" "Oh, shit! Did I keep my slip? Where's my quick-pass?! Damn, I can't find it! Looks like I have to jump the gate, again!"

We just saw Cap utterly own a handful of men in a cramped elevator, I don't think things were exactly calling for seeing him beat up some guards and parking attendants.
 
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Yeah, requiring them to show him get to his motorcycle is terrible film making. Editing is a useful tool. All film makers do it.

Maybe we should also have had to watch them drive several hours to get the bunker in New Jersey (in real time)? Are you mad they cut that out?
 
Yeah, requiring them to show him get to his motorcycle is terrible film making. Editing is a useful tool. All film makers do it.

Maybe we should also have had to watch them drive several hours to get the bunker in New Jersey (in real time)? Are you mad they cut that out?

Did he stay on the back-roads or did he take the turnpike?! I MUST KNOW!!!
 
Because escapes have to be shown honestly.

Let's clarify something.... They don't HAVE to be. You WANT them to be. Others have no issues filling in some gaps themselves. You felt the showing Vader getting on a shuttle took the flow out of the scene. How is this any different? If we had 20 seconds of Cap walking through a corridor, into an elevator, into a parking lot and to his bike, you would have complained just as much.
 
I guess his point is that an escape is a dangerous situation where every moment is important, one mistake too many and you're caught. When you're escaping from something the tension comes from the fact that you have to keep running, no chance to rest, and if there are obstacles in your way you have to beat them. By skipping part of the escape the filmmaker "cheats" and conveniently skips one or more of the obstacles. The hero doesn't earn his freedom because some part of the escape is magically skipped over.

Or something. I don't agree it's terrible, but I guess it takes away some tension.
 
I guess his point is that an escape is a dangerous situation where every moment is important, one mistake too many and you're caught. When you're escaping from something the tension comes from the fact that you have to keep running, no chance to rest, and if there are obstacles in your way you have to beat them. By skipping part of the escape the filmmaker "cheats" and conveniently skips one or more of the obstacles. The hero doesn't earn his freedom because some part of the escape is magically skipped over.

Or something. I don't agree it's terrible, but I guess it takes away some tension.

It can, but I don't think it applies in this case.

One place it does apply? Last year's "The Equalizer" in it Denzel Washington plays an ex-CIA man who through a series of wacky circumstances finds himself taking on a Russian mafia group. At one point in the movie he's in a home where he takes out a mob leader, as he leaves he walks through a series of bodies throughout he home, driveway, and yard of the mobman's home. An encounter that we did not get to see.

So, yeah, a LOT of questions on how he got onto the compound, through all of the security, into the home and eventually into the boss's bathroom all apparently without this boss hearing a thing? In the movie Denzel shows himself to be a badass but that scene extends past easy hand-waving.

THAT makes sense to complain about as far as not being shown everything.

How Cap got through, and out of, a parking garage? Not so much.
 
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