Avatar vs Titanic: which is better?
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Cameron is clearly a big believer in 3D as an artistic device; he by all accounts dislikes the 2D version of Avatar.
Which would you rather do without for the rest of your life?
Directing: About the same. If nothing else, Cameron can direct.
Story: Titanic. Avatar's comparisson to other movies have all been made, I won't repeat them here just suffice it to say that Avatar's story was weak and derivative. That's not to say that Titanic's (the main love story, that is) wasn't but Titanic is bumped up a bit because of it being set during the Titanic tragedy.)
Visual Spectacle: Both were visual masterpieces for their time.
Audio Spectacle: Sond wise, Avatar wins out but mostly because it's a "noisier" movie as far as the action goes. As far as the soundtrack, I think Horner's score is stronger in Titanic. Avatar's just seems derivative of Horner's work in Titanic.
Overall, I'd say "Titanic" is the better movie as far as everything goes. It drew me in more and the last hour or so dealing with the sinking is just awesome.
But both are great movies in their respective "eras", Avatar's only weakness is just being weak in the story department.
Story: Titanic. Avatar's comparisson to other movies have all been made, I won't repeat them here just suffice it to say that Avatar's story was weak and derivative. That's not to say that Titanic's (the main love story, that is) wasn't but Titanic is bumped up a bit because of it being set during the Titanic tragedy.)
Visual Spectacle: Both were visual masterpieces for their time.
Audio Spectacle: Sond wise, Avatar wins out but mostly because it's a "noisier" movie as far as the action goes. As far as the soundtrack, I think Horner's score is stronger in Titanic. Avatar's just seems derivative of Horner's work in Titanic.
Overall, I'd say "Titanic" is the better movie as far as everything goes. It drew me in more and the last hour or so dealing with the sinking is just awesome.
But both are great movies in their respective "eras", Avatar's only weakness is just being weak in the story department.
It's like comparing apples & oranges, except that I like apples & oranges
If you mean stripping it down to just comparing which production was better, I'd say that they both end up about equal, which stands to reason, as they were written, directed & produced by the same person, & even both scored by the same man. Avatar has a slightly more involved premise, but the story is only about as well developed as Titanic's. Titanic's actors were, on the whole, better. The script writing wasn't all that great in either case. Titanic's score seemed a bit more memorable, not that being memorable is the end all be all of making a better score. It just tends to add to the overall worth of the production, when it's remembered
I'd say that Titanic manages to be slightly better in it's genre, than Avatar. That is debatable, however, because of the obvious technical prowess wielded in Avatar, & the relationship that tech prowess has with sci-fi quality. I'm really basing the judgment on the fact that in the sci-fi genre, I see Avatar being of less noteworthiness than Titanic was in the romance genre. However, that may change with the release of a second Avatar, but maybe not
If you mean stripping it down to just comparing which production was better, I'd say that they both end up about equal, which stands to reason, as they were written, directed & produced by the same person, & even both scored by the same man. Avatar has a slightly more involved premise, but the story is only about as well developed as Titanic's. Titanic's actors were, on the whole, better. The script writing wasn't all that great in either case. Titanic's score seemed a bit more memorable, not that being memorable is the end all be all of making a better score. It just tends to add to the overall worth of the production, when it's remembered
I'd say that Titanic manages to be slightly better in it's genre, than Avatar. That is debatable, however, because of the obvious technical prowess wielded in Avatar, & the relationship that tech prowess has with sci-fi quality. I'm really basing the judgment on the fact that in the sci-fi genre, I see Avatar being of less noteworthiness than Titanic was in the romance genre. However, that may change with the release of a second Avatar, but maybe not
Titanic didn't have me reisting the urge to fall asleep in the middle like Avatar did.
Titanic had better casting, and is probably better paced--helps that it takes place over a short period of time whereas Avatar keeps jumping days and weeks ahead.
Titanic had Kate Winslet, Avatar did not
In the end though it comes down to the fact that I've always been a sucker for the Titanis story, and given the option I'd rather wander around the historical ship than the made up alien world. I found the 2D Titanic more immersive than the 3D Pandora.
Oh and one final point. Everyone expected Titanic to flop. Despite its budget it was a risk to make and an underdog before it came out. Avatar on the other hand had people falling over themsevles salivating at the prospect without even knowing what it was going to be about. This might have set it up to fail, but really it just meant everyone was going to want to see it, I don't think Avatar failing was ever an option whereas Tinanic could have quite easily sunk without a trace (sorry)
Titanic had better casting, and is probably better paced--helps that it takes place over a short period of time whereas Avatar keeps jumping days and weeks ahead.
Titanic had Kate Winslet, Avatar did not
In the end though it comes down to the fact that I've always been a sucker for the Titanis story, and given the option I'd rather wander around the historical ship than the made up alien world. I found the 2D Titanic more immersive than the 3D Pandora.
Oh and one final point. Everyone expected Titanic to flop. Despite its budget it was a risk to make and an underdog before it came out. Avatar on the other hand had people falling over themsevles salivating at the prospect without even knowing what it was going to be about. This might have set it up to fail, but really it just meant everyone was going to want to see it, I don't think Avatar failing was ever an option whereas Tinanic could have quite easily sunk without a trace (sorry)
Yeah I remember when they were making Titanic they'd show the big sets down in Mexico on Entertainment Tonight and at the time people were amazed how much the movie was going to cost and how it could be the next Waterworld.
Most "big" movies don't have $200 million budgets now, that's still huge money. It may be the biggest budget for a movie ever, taking inflation into account, but I'm not sure. Certainly in the modern era. More than Avatar did.
Most "big" movies don't have $200 million budgets now, that's still huge money. It may be the biggest budget for a movie ever, taking inflation into account, but I'm not sure. Certainly in the modern era. More than Avatar did.
The most expensive movie ever was the 1960s Russian version of War and Peace; it was filmed over several years, involved over 100,000 extras from the Russian army, and cost the equivalent of $700 million.
I went with Avatar.
Even though it was little more than a CGI remake of Dances With Wolves, it was STILL at least a beautifully made movie that, while predictable, was a compelling story.
Titanic, in comparison, was WAY too long and, frankly, outright annoying at times. By the time Leo's character died, I couldn't have possibly cared less.
Even though it was little more than a CGI remake of Dances With Wolves, it was STILL at least a beautifully made movie that, while predictable, was a compelling story.
Titanic, in comparison, was WAY too long and, frankly, outright annoying at times. By the time Leo's character died, I couldn't have possibly cared less.
I think I'll leave Soviet state-sponsored military exercises as film out of the contest and stick to commercially funded commercial enterprises.
That's a good point. I had zero interest in seeing Avatar until hearing all the hype it was causing. I felt I had to see what the big deal was about. I knew quite a lot about the Titanic, on the other hand, and wanted to see it, even if it did mean sitting through a potentially sappy love story.
Probably about the same for me, who knew I'd end up loving Titanic's sappy love story
Though anyone who things the dialogue in Titanic is bad shouldn't ever watch the deleted scenes! I love the film but it could have been awful if he'd kept a lot of stuff in.
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I can not choose which is better but both movies are awesome. Hardly I say that Avatar is better than Titanic movie because special effects in Avatar is great and story of Avatar is quit different. Avatar is awesome in 3D.
You do realise that you come out worse in this tale, right?
The alternate ending? Yeah, that was godawful; they made the right call there.
The movie reveals the sinking in the first scene, remember? So at worst, he spoiled the first scene... for an idiot. I hardly see how that reflects poorly on him.
