startrekrcks
Fleet Captain
Thanks the scenery on Pandora is outstanding any thoughts on the characters in the movie.
Avatar is stupid
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If you want a discussion thread where they appreciate the visuals (y'know, the real reason the movie was made!), rather than whining about the story, there's always the CGSociety!
CGTalk - James Cameron's AVATAR
How can anyone watch anything more than a couple of times? There's so much to watch and read and so little time.
I actually like and relate the characters. For example I actually know gung-ho marines like Colonel Miles Quaritch. Is he a bit over the top? Sure, but Stephen Lang played him so well it is a joy to watch him.
Sam Worthington did an excellent job as Jake. In his human form he seemed like an average person but in his Avatar it was amazing seeing him turn into a true hero.
Well, it seems that even Colonel Quaritch was underestimating his enemy. That's nothing odd considering that he had just destroyed the home tree without facing any relevant resistance from the natives. And that Pandora's wildlife would suddenly start to attack the human forces isn't something you could have forseen either (especially if you don't believe one bit of the crap Grace and the other scientists were talking about). So from the colonel's point of view there was just no need for any kind of orbital bombardment. Quaritch was THE BORG. And why did the Borg only send one cube in BOBW? Because they thought they couldn't possibly lose. Besides, the colonel probably wanted to have a direct fight with the Na'vi... he just didn't expect to get his ass whipped in the process. I wouldn't call Quaritch stupid though. He was arrogant and ignorant, but not stupid.
Or do you mean that RDA should have tried orbital bombardment after Quaritch's death? That's pretty unlikely considering that Selfridge was often depicted as being very reluctant when it came to authorizing the use of military force. Quaritch was the one who was always pushing Selfridge in that direction, and without Quaritch there was nobody pushing him anymore. That the RDA board back on Earth would order Selfridge to bomb the Na'vi from orbit isn't a given considering that the suits seemed always seemed to fear getting negative press. The situation was probably bad enough as it was from the point of view of the PR department. (And wasn't it stated in the movie that they used all their explosives in Quaritch's first attack anyway?)
Yes after spending nearly all of his screen time cautioning everyone about how dangerous a place Pandora was. He goes from a respect for Pandora and its inhabitants capabilities bordering on paranoia to reckless stupidity solely to serve the plot.
Yeah he acted stupidly there as well.
Orbital bombardment? Do you mean my suggestion of high altitude bombardment?
As I said throughout the movie he continuously expresses respect for his environment and its inhabitants. Then boom the plot needs stupid and arrogant he becomes stupid and arrogant.
I didn't say anything about orbital bombardment. I mentioned high altitude bombardment a far cheaper and less risky course of action than flying through ambush country.
They had two pallets of explosives in the big transatmospheric shuttle they were using as a WWI Zeppelin. During the attack on the Well of Souls.
Angela 0077
Captain
I went to see Avatar a couple of months ago.
I never thought this movie was stupid it was pretty good plus the characters were pretty cool to watch too.
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I also loved the 3D effect.
I never thought this movie was stupid it was pretty good plus the characters were pretty cool to watch too.
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I also loved the 3D effect.
startrekrcks
Fleet Captain
well said I thought the same thing this movie is like something else it blows you away and I love the characters especially Neytiri and Jake they are both awesome.
If the movie was only made for the visuals, why did they even include a story? Why not make Avatar two hours of Jake wandering around looking at cool shit?
Okay. Avatar might not have had the most original story line. In fact, I do know of the similarities of this film and Pocahontas (among others). However, regardless of that: Avatar executed that story well. It took you on amazing visual feast and made you mind explore a world you didn't see before.
Granted, I am not racing out to the store to buy it on DVD, but I did see it in the theater twice and enjoyed it very much both times.
Side Note:
Oh, hey, speaking of Pocahontas: Here is a photo that some of you might enjoy...
http://disney-desktop-wallpaper.com/walt-disney-world/pocahontas-meeko.jpg
I mean, what exactly is the Raccoon looking at, anyhow?
Granted, I am not racing out to the store to buy it on DVD, but I did see it in the theater twice and enjoyed it very much both times.
Side Note:
Oh, hey, speaking of Pocahontas: Here is a photo that some of you might enjoy...
http://disney-desktop-wallpaper.com/walt-disney-world/pocahontas-meeko.jpg
I mean, what exactly is the Raccoon looking at, anyhow?
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I hate to rain on your parade, but we can assume that if ALL life on Pandora is connected, the planetary hivemind will make the planet uninhabitable for you no matter what you do.
See them blotches forming on the skin on your stormtroopers? See them clutching their throats and screaming as their eyes fall out? That there is Pandora bacteria, which didn't use to be hostile until you had to cop an attitude in the glorious name of Profit....
I just saw this movie for the first time on Sunday night on Bluray.
I thought it was (ironically) bland, generic and soul-less. Much like the Avatars themselves really.
Yes, it was Dances with Wolves in space. But unlike Dances with Wolves I just could not find the effort to invest emotionally in any of the characters. I really could not care less about any of them while I was watching this. To me, this one was DOA.
I completely don't understand all the fuss over it. I thought both District 9 and Star Trek were vastly superior films..
I thought it was (ironically) bland, generic and soul-less. Much like the Avatars themselves really.
Yes, it was Dances with Wolves in space. But unlike Dances with Wolves I just could not find the effort to invest emotionally in any of the characters. I really could not care less about any of them while I was watching this. To me, this one was DOA.
I completely don't understand all the fuss over it. I thought both District 9 and Star Trek were vastly superior films..
Angela 0077
Captain
i sometimes wonder what the raccoon and you are looking and getting up too Mr Sloan
Only kidding
Yes Avatar had so much action and it had such a terrific storyline and the 3D version was brillaint.
the acting skills of Sam Worthington were good also.
I cant believe he was a brickie before he broke into films
He also didnt have much money in his pockets and lived in his car before he made it big in America
I noticed that alot of movies are trying to go for the 3D effect but it doesnt match this movie by far.
I just saw Avatar for the first time. Yeah it's dumb. Yeah it's unoriginal. But goddamn! That final battle was a real humdinger! Awesome battle! Too bad there were no characters in the movie to root for. And why did it take 25 minutes for anything interesting to happen? Cameron could have cut out 30 minutes and not lost a thing.
Angela 0077
Captain
Yes l loved that battle between the army and the blue peolpe
Cant remeber what the name is of the tribe
But l liked it when that big tree was in focus and they were trying to save there land
But l would never consider this movie dumb it was brilliant to watch
Cant remeber what the name is of the tribe
But l liked it when that big tree was in focus and they were trying to save there land
But l would never consider this movie dumb it was brilliant to watch
