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Author Habits That Annoy You

I've never understood the need for a cast in a story to so often be a best of compilation from other series. So far as randomly displacing some in time just so they can be there. The latest comic series being the cringiest example.

Now I love crossovers and many times it can be and is done beautifully but so often it seems like that was an author's desire and there just wasn't a strong enough story to facilitate it.

Unless of course there were instructions passed down from the publishers in which case it's their fault for wanting a small universe and authors just have to make the most entertaining story they can out of it.
 
Archer responds he's lived in the area all his life, and Carey interprets it as him implying that you can't get Chinese food in San Francisco to allow Phlox to feel more culturally aware than him.
Actually, he responds, in so many words, that he's lived in San Francisco his entire life, and then inwardly muses that there were Chinese restaurants "every third corner" there, but that Phlox "wanted to have something on him."

I didn't get a sense of anybody in that conversation assuming that it meant that you can't get Chinese food there; that would be an absurdity. I will admit that my taste in Chinese food runs to variations on custom made-to-order stir-fry (e.g., "Mongolian Barbecue," which is of course neither Mongolian nor barbecue), but by reputation alone I know that San Francisco probably has both the best Chinese food east of Fuyuan and west of Kashgar, and the worst Chinese food east of Fuyuan and west of Kashgar.
 
I’m not a fan when an author is over descriptive. It’s a reason I can’t read JK Rowling books.
In other words, your threshold of "excessively purple" in prose is a very pale shade of lavender.

I'm guessing you're not an ADF fan.
 
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Actually, he responds, in so many words, that he's lived in San Francisco his entire life, and then inwardly muses that there were Chinese restaurants "every third corner" there, but that Phlox "wanted to have something on him."

I didn't get a sense of anybody in that conversation assuming that it meant that you can't get Chinese food there; that would be an absurdity. I will admit that my taste in Chinese food runs to variations on custom made-to-order stir-fry (e.g., "Mongolian Barbecue," which is of course neither Mongolian nor barbecue), but by reputation alone I know that San Francisco probably has both the best Chinese food east of Fuyuan and west of Kashgar, and the worst Chinese food east of Fuyuan and west of Kashgar.

That's why I think it's an example of Carey's contempt for the scriptwriters making her go out of the way to interpret everything in the worst possible light. As in, "These idiots Berman and Braga don't know you can get good Chinese food in San Francisco, how am I going to make this conversation makes sense where Archer admits he's not as well-traveled as Phlox?" even though Archer is clearly communicating, "Yes, I, too, am familiar with and enjoy Chinese food, as I also live in this area where it is abundant." So she contextualizes it as Archer lying-without-lying by saying he's only lived in San Francisco, leaving out that of course there's plenty of Chinese restaurants in San Francisco, and allowing Phlox to think he had more experience of Earth than he does, even if it's false.

It's bad faith on top of bad faith on Carey's part, but so is assuming that Barclay was misusing "literally" rather than concluding that Janeway actually had written a book about the Borg. It's kind of amazing that there's someone who thinks B&B's writing wasn't overt, blunt, or artless enough, but that's the conclusion we're left with.
 
And I get the precise opposite vibe from DC's take on the scene: Archer's convinced that Phlox wants to one-up him, but they both know Chinese food is ubiquitous, especially in SF. And living one's entire life there doesn't mean he doesn't get around. I've lived in Fountain Valley, California, since I was three, but I've traveled throughout the U.S. and Canada.

At any rate, on page 69, DC did treat the whole breadstick business as ridiculous, because was ridiculous.

Page 159: liquid phosphorescence?!? How did that get past the copy-editor? Was it in the episode (And I will note that while white phosphorus is luminescent, it's chemoluminescent [from slow oxidation], not phosphorescent [which is what a very-slow-decay phosphor, like zinc sulfide, does]).

Page 161: the examples of composites are a complete non-sequitur. Especially the reference to aircraft carriers.

At any rate, while it's hardly DD, GC, or CLB, I would hardly call it bad.
 
So I guess Vulcans either changed their mind about eating with their hands in the century since Enterprise or T'Pol was overstating the case. :shrug:
 
T'Pol says "Liquid phosphorous" in the episode.
Thanks, @Tosk

Maybe I'm dense for asking, but...how so?
Refusal to touch food with one's hands while eating (and attempting to eat something hard, dry, clean, like a breadstick, or a pretzel, or a cookie, or a cracker, with a knife and a fork) is illogical and impractical. As well as reminiscent of a memorably sarcastic reply to a "Miss Manners" question about potato chips, i.e., that they should be eaten with "a fruit knife and an oyster fork." It also, as I recall, goes against established canonical precedent about Vulcan behavior.
 
and attempting to eat something hard, dry, clean, like a breadstick, or a pretzel, or a cookie, or a cracker, with a knife and a fork) is illogical and impractical
I believe that was the point. T'Pol is intentionally showing that she won't be swayed from her course by these annoying Earthlings. Dedication and persistence wins the day.

It also, as I recall, goes against established canonical precedent about Vulcan behavior.
Did someone on one of the shows once state that all Vulcans from a century (or more) ago always felt free to eat with their hands?
 
Did someone on one of the shows once state that all Vulcans from a century (or more) ago always felt free to eat with their hands?

Good point. It makes no sense to assume that an entire species has only one culture even in a single time, let alone in different centuries. Indeed, that's the best thing about ENT's portrayal of Vulcans -- it showed that their culture was considerably different in the 22nd century than in the 23rd, and thus added depth and believability to the portrayal of the species. It even gave them different subcultures coexisting at the same time, like the V'tosh ka'tur, the melders, and the Syrannites. If the entire civilization's attitudes toward melding, the military policies of their government, or their understanding of Surak's teachings could change as radically as they did between ENT and TOS, it's hardly implausible that their dining etiquette could've evolved as well.
 
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