But it's America's hat. Don't have an intuitive feel for what 30 C is but if I convert quickly it's around 85 or 86, which is already too damn hot for me. (Not bad off the cuff at 4 AM, eh?) 60 and a light breeze and I'm good to go. I agree with your statement about warming up vs. cooling off. My line of work is dead in my neck of the woods these days, and I'm at a stopgap position. I'm searching nationally, and I'll go where the work is provided it's not 90 and muggy 9 months out of the year.