Attention Posters

[T'Bonz]

I've had enough with some of the crap out here. Loken is gone due to a pattern of fighting. Andriech, you need to tone things down. 005, I want you to take a 2 week break from Fan Productions beginning when you read this. After you read this, post here so that I know and I will be watching.

Anyone else want to fight and make trouble, by all means test my Romulan patience. Make my day.

 

[doubleohfive]

005, I want you to take a 2 week break from Fan Productions beginning when you read this. After you read this, post here so that I know and I will be watching

Message received and understood.

 

[PattyW]

Andriech, you need to tone things down.

Sorry, I already apologized in the thread for that one comment that was over the top. It won't happen again.

 

[Barbreader]

I don't usually snipe, but I admit I did once this week. That was intended as anticipatory of another person's attack on my post. I will return to my usual peacefulness.

 

[Tom]

I would challenge your Romulan patience, but I don't live near you

 

[JT Perfecthair]

Maybe those sending the complaints to the mods could just be encouraged to stop clicking on topics that upset them rather than limiting what I and others can read here. The interplay (yes even the bitching) between the various production companies and the legalities they work under are part of the reason I come here.

 

[Maurice]

The problem has been that some members can't keep the "you" out of their posts. It's actually fairly easy to have a heated argument and still remain civil if we make an effort.

 

[USS Intrepid]

When the comments are personal rather than informational, a line is being crossed. Most of us come here for the information being shared, and that information is often lost amongst the snarking. Besides, quite a few of these people are friends of mine, so yeah I don't need to see all the infighting. If you want infighting, go watch reality TV.

That said, I've zero desire to see anyone banned. Seriously, I don't see why we can't actually make an effort to at least be civil to each other in here.

 

[T'Bonz]

I would challenge your Romulan patience, but I don't live near you

 

[northstar]

Banning the producer of what looks like to be one of the best idenpendently produced Star Trek movies in a time where this board could use a lot more users might not be the best idea, in my humble opinion.

 

[GSchnitzer]

Banning the producer of what looks like to be one of the best idenpendently produced Star Trek movies in a time where this board could use a lot more users might not be the best idea, in my humble opinion.

Not banning a user (regardless of who it might be) for frequent board violations that result in dissatisfied members departing the board might also not be the best idea. So we try to simply adhere to board moderation disciplinary policies and try not to apply those policies unevenly regardless of who the banned individual is. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't, of course. So we just try to adhere to the policy and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[northstar]

Then you should have either banned both posters that you found offending or none.

Some more moderation of these boards might help avoiding these things. There are threads that ran for days in the past without moderation and sometimes result in flaming. That might have been prevented by a timely response of the admins.

 

[JarodRussell]

Banning the producer of what looks like to be one of the best idenpendently produced Star Trek movies in a time where this board could use a lot more users might not be the best idea, in my humble opinion.

Moderators should be impartial, the status of a poster should never matter.

 

[Mudd]

I think it would be hard to demonstrate that there's a fan film in existence whose staff could attract enough users to a BBS to make much difference in its fortunes. Banning William Shatner = bad idea. Banning one of us = judgment call.

 

[AustNerevar]

As someone who is merely a fan of the fan projects, please stop fighting, mom and dad. If you keep this up, it will draw attention from CBS. This could be viewed as negative press for the IP and could result in all fan productions being shut down and nobody wants that.

This is Star Trek for Christ's sake. A show that promotes putting aside one's differences and working together.

 

[shapeshifter]

Banning the producer of what looks like to be one of the best idenpendently produced Star Trek movies in a time where this board could use a lot more users might not be the best idea, in my humble opinion.

Not banning a user (regardless of who it might be) for frequent board violations that result in dissatisfied members departing the board might also not be the best idea. So we try to simply adhere to board moderation disciplinary policies and try not to apply those policies unevenly regardless of who the banned individual is. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't, of course. So we just try to adhere to the policy and let the chips fall where they may.

I've seen board after board tear itself apart for administrator disagreements over who should or should not get the boot. That TBBS manages to remain cohesive amidst such controversies is testament to all it's Staff Members placing enforcement of the TOS above personal feelings, as it should be.

Well done!

 

[northstar]

Well, another member mentioned the real reason why one member was banned and another wasn´t and it shatters that statement that the disciplinary actions are done evenly to all members considerably... But I won´t go into detail. What´s done is done.

 

[Potemkin_Prod]

If you've got a problem, take it to MA or QSF. It no longer belongs in here.

 

[GSchnitzer]

Well, another member mentioned the real reason why one member was banned and another wasn´t and it shatters that statement that the disciplinary actions are done evenly to all members considerably... But I won´t go into detail. What´s done is done.

Thank your for your input.

I think that if the disciplinary actions that were meted out actually differed between the various involved participants, it's probably because the infractions themselves were subtly (or maybe even not so subtly) different. (Ostensibly, they might look similar.) I think only those with direct involvement would have access to the full set of data on which such decisions were made. Other bystanders can offer only their not-fully-informed speculation.

Potemkin_Prod is right: the MA and QSF forums are available and are the proper forums to be used if folks have concerns or want clarity regarding moderator actions.

 

[doubleohfive]

Banning the producer of what looks like to be one of the best idenpendently produced Star Trek movies in a time where this board could use a lot more users might not be the best idea, in my humble opinion.

Then you should have either banned both posters that you found offending or none.

Some more moderation of these boards might help avoiding these things. There are threads that ran for days in the past without moderation and sometimes result in flaming. That might have been prevented by a timely response of the admins.

Well, another member mentioned the real reason why one member was banned and another wasn´t and it shatters that statement that the disciplinary actions are done evenly to all members considerably... But I won´t go into detail. What´s done is done.

This will be my last post in this thread.

A directive was handed down a few weeks ago in terms of how to conduct ourselves in this thread. I understood that directive and I chose to abide by it. I am only responsible for my own behavior because I can only control my own behavior.

I dont know what your beef with me is northstar as we don't know each other and I can't remember at all if we've ever interacted in the past. Feel free to take your complaints to MA or QSF or even message me over PM directly. I will not engage with you in these public forums over personal pettiness.

Bonz, Greg, sorry. I felt it important to address this on my own behalf. I'll not cause any more trouble here.