Ashes to ashes

[DeepSpaceWine]

Voyager wasn't following a bee line course back to the alpha quadrant, they were zig-zagging around investigating interesting things off their base course, this would have slowed them down.

In terms of tracking Voyager, they were leaving a clear trail of both do-gooding and destruction behind themselves. It wouldn't be that hard to figure out where the ship had been.

So as long as you had a fast enough ship, catching Voyager - no problem.

Voyager made a few jumps between mid-Season 4 & "Ashes to Ashes"- 300ly in "Hope & Fear", 10,000ly in "Timeless", 20,000ly in "Dark Frontier", and "3 years" in "The Voyager Conspiracy", so the trail would suddenly go cold and only pick up a very long time later (that's 30,300ly + 5 years of their average annual traveling distance). Then there's the issue of there being 2 trails for her to follow for a time, trails which both extend over 10s of thousands of light years.

Also, something to remember is despite veering off for investigating things or avoiding problem areas, they would obviously try to get back on course. We always see the interesting times (episodes), not the bland times where nothing much happens and they just keep cruising through space. If they didn't try to get back on the direct route or something parallel to it, they would gradually deviate more and more from where they are going. It's not like they keep wandering; it's go off to the side, then go on a tangent to connect back to the direct route.

1 - how did Lindsey Ballard catch up with Voyager - she'd be shot into space then re-animated then lived on a planet for 2 years then left the planet in search of Voyager and in the space of 6 months had caught up with them - so to recap, Voyager had a 2 and a half years head start yet she still caught up with them - what the hell was Voyager doing that slowed them down so much (in course oblivion, the copies were also ahead of Voyager!!)

"Ashes to Ashes" is one of the geographic mysteries (bad writing, but fun to try and figure out. Nice episode though). In "Course: Oblivion", they were ahead of Voyager because they got some enhanced warp drive breakthrough, the irony being it emitted radiation that harmed Silverbloods, but not humanoids. Had they survived to reach Voyager, Voyager would have been able to get home a lot faster.

 

[Guy Gardener]

There was a trillion trillion tonnes of silver blood on that planet.

More?

The crew got lonely and "made" a ship.

That's unmonitored uncontrolled breeding.

Intrepid isn't the only class of vessel they could have made.

Creating Voyager from a large enough mass of quicklsiver would leave enough effluence and afterbirth from the "building" that the pattern might carry on birthing more Voyagers like some sort of cascade chain reaction infecting the planet like a virus spontaneously "manifesting" Voyager after Voyager, and each of those ships would want crew, and therefore make a crew.

More breeding the original Janeway didn't have oversight over.

Though Kim would keep imprinting silver with aspects of women who quickly decide against him as Boyfriend material and feels so unwanted never with the hope of ever getting a promition that he builds his own Voyager syaffed with nothing but 200 Harold Kims.

I see thousands of Voyagers heading toward earth.

10s of thousands.

Phaser batteries surrounding earth's Solar system, after a few centuries of this buillshit are eventually going to see these quicksilver lifeforms thinking that they are Voyager as trash that they don't want any part of and need to be shot at rather than talked to because the same fucking conversation again is boring the "coastguard" to tears.

 

[Deckerd]

The quicksilver people wouldn't make it to Earth for the same reason the first mission failed.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Because they also invented "enhanced wardrive'?

That invention required a flash of genius, which is hardly an inevitability when dealing with so many unequal samples exposed to so much different external stimulus.

External stimulus?

The enhanced warpdrive, part of the enhance warpdrive might have been dependant on new technology that only some Voyagers ran across in their travels by "borrowing/trading" from one singular advanced culture which other Voyagers didn't.

 

[Deckerd]

Whatever they do they are time limited. Even if they made it as far as Earth they would be so degraded by that time they couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Sorry, I might have to remind you about the plot of the episode.

The crew invents a new enhanced type of warpdrive which is harmless to humans but poisonous to quicksilver entities. The crew has forgotten that they are not human for some reason, probably "fun" and it kills them.

Voyager running under regular warp drive will not have any ill effect on the quicksilver life forms.

Just watched "12".

Joel Shumakker is still a twat.

 

[Deckerd]

Ah okay. I only ever watched it once. I'm not into watching things over and over, except some films.

 

[Guy Gardener]

orientation at a german POW camp for the new prosoners, the Comandant tries to make a good impression by being serious and scary: "Achton! Good evening PRISONERS! There is good news, and there is bad news! First the bad news! There's shit for dinner! Now for the good news! THERE'S PLENTY OF IT!"

My endless rewatching voyager was a longtime ago.

I remember the arguments in this forum more than I do the episodes.

Posting and reposting the same arguments here is like ground hog day slowly working yourself towards the perfect examination of a study by regoing the same motions ad infinitum ad naeseum.