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As someone who served aboard a real naval vessel...

I'd say that the movie's engineering wasn't dirty, dank, enough. It was still rather bright n polished even still.

Actually this reminds me of a lot of articles that seem to appear nowadays about self-cleaning nanotechnology where dirt sort of slides off the material. But i'm probably reaching again :lol:
 
I have doubts as to whether an antimatter reactor powering a warp drive would have much in common with internal combustion or even fission reactor power plants.
You should keep in mind that it isn't a real starship, and that you (nor I) have any clue as to what an antimatter reactor powering a warp drive would look like at all. :)

There would be sombreros everywhere.

In regards to the water, the pipe it's traveling through is labeled "inert reactant", which leads me to believe it's heavy water.


J.
 
Not impressed with Engineering, but I didn't hate it either.

First off, having served aboard a ship, USS Dubuque LPD8, I can say that that would have fit in with any naval ship engineering dept. However, and this just may be me, but I was expecting something different. To me that engineering dept looked like something I can see on any ship today, not something that's supposed to be 200 years in the future. But like QuasarVM said; "Not impressed, but didn't hate it either.
 
I mentioned this a couple of days ago, but I see it like this:

Our modern cars, which have onboard GPS, High Resolution satellite stereos, intelligent auto track systems, computer cores, sleek design interfaces and composite materials using the latest 21st century technology, run off of a 19th century combustion engine. Why does it have to look futuristic if it works?

J.
 
I like what they intending, I just think it didn't work. Little about it connected it to the rest of the ship on an aesthetic level.

As I said in another thread, the particle accelerator (CERN) look would have looked better and made more sense to me, at least.
 
... it looked like the most believable engineering section of any Trek movie. I mean of course it's supposed to be dirty and hot and dank, even in the most brand spanking new ships. It's a bloody engine! Okay, the size leaves a little to be desired, but it's nice to see Star Trek adopting the "used future" aesthetic.

I'll second that. Of all the nits I've had with this movie (which I still think is a good "origin" movie) the new look of engineering is something I was actually very happy to see.
 
Hey, can you guys with real naval backgrounds tell me if it's plausable for Kirk to get permanent command of the Enterprise at the end?

For a modern Navy, absolutely not. Not in any way shape or form would that be plausible.

However, this is Starfleet, not the U.S. Navy.
 
This, however, was an extraordinary circumstance. How many 3rd year cadets do you know who saves the entire (in this case) planet and billions more lives from certain and imminent destruction? Who shows exceptional leadership and tactical knowledge that is superior to even the most up to date military leaders? Also, Kirk was given the rank of First Officer on that ship by Captain Pike.

Then again, it's apparent that Starfleet isn't quite a military organization according to Captain Pike. It holds similarities, but there are differences. This is apparently one of them. And one more thing: We're looking at least 200+ years into the future here. Things are bound to change a bit in such a culture, particularly one as broad and varied as this one. Kirk didn't just save Earth, he saved the entire Federation and billions, if not trillions, of lives.

J.
 
Hey, can you guys with real naval backgrounds tell me if it's plausable for Kirk to get permanent command of the Enterprise at the end?

Hey, can you guys with real naval backgrounds tell me if it's plausable for Kirk to get permanent command of the Enterprise at the end?

For a modern Navy, absolutely not. Not in any way shape or form would that be plausible.

However, this is Starfleet, not the U.S. Navy.

I thought it was odd that Kirk never spent time as an Ensign, LTJG or any other rank.
 
Not impressed with Engineering, but I didn't hate it either.

...To me that engineering dept looked like something I can see on any ship today, not something that's supposed to be 200 years in the future....

I like to think this is a testiment to today's engineering, afterall isn't it an engineering maxim that 'if it ain't broke dont' fix it' ?

ah.. i just thought of McCoy 'engineers love to change things' ;)
 
Hey, can you guys with real naval backgrounds tell me if it's plausable for Kirk to get permanent command of the Enterprise at the end?

Hey, can you guys with real naval backgrounds tell me if it's plausable for Kirk to get permanent command of the Enterprise at the end?

For a modern Navy, absolutely not. Not in any way shape or form would that be plausible.

However, this is Starfleet, not the U.S. Navy.

I thought it was odd that Kirk never spent time as an Ensign, LTJG or any other rank.

Yep, the only "insta-rank" that makes ANY kind of sense is McCoy as an automatic LCDR since the real world's navies also have no problem giving advanced rank to doctors with prior medical service. The chief medical officer on my ship while I was in actually came into the Navy as an O-6 Captain just on the strength of his 25 year civilian experience.
 
Not impressed with Engineering, but I didn't hate it either.

...To me that engineering dept looked like something I can see on any ship today, not something that's supposed to be 200 years in the future....

I like to think this is a testiment to today's engineering, afterall isn't it an engineering maxim that 'if it ain't broke dont' fix it' ?

ah.. i just thought of McCoy 'engineers love to change things' ;)

As to the bolded? True. Good quote from McCoy.
 
Hey, can you guys with real naval backgrounds tell me if it's plausable for Kirk to get permanent command of the Enterprise at the end?

For a modern Navy, absolutely not. Not in any way shape or form would that be plausible.

However, this is Starfleet, not the U.S. Navy.

Also, battlefield promotions aren't out of the ordinary. Let's face it, those who aren't privy to the time travel nuances will think that it was the Romulans from their era who destroyed Vulcan so there will be demands of retaliation on the part of Starfleet and the Federation.

Looks like we might get that Romulan War we've been jonesing for.
 
I never served in the Navy but I LOVED Engineering. I admit I was a bit worried when I heard how they were accomplishing it... but it made it feel so much more real. I loved that they walked through it to get to the shuttle bay too. There was such a great sense that this was a mammoth vessel that needed a LOT to make it move and a real sense of how everything connected. Brilliant.
 
Hey, can you guys with real naval backgrounds tell me if it's plausable for Kirk to get permanent command of the Enterprise at the end?

For a modern Navy, absolutely not. Not in any way shape or form would that be plausible.

However, this is Starfleet, not the U.S. Navy.

Also, battlefield promotions aren't out of the ordinary. Let's face it, those who aren't privy to the time travel nuances will think that it was the Romulans from their era who destroyed Vulcan so there will be demands of retaliation on the part of Starfleet and the Federation.

Looks like we might get that Romulan War we've been jonesing for.

Battlefield promotions are one thing, but to go from cadet to first officer in one promotion? Bit of a stretch for me. I'm not kept awake by it, but it made me go, hmmm.
 
Yep, the only "insta-rank" that makes ANY kind of sense is McCoy as an automatic LCDR since the real world's navies also have no problem giving advanced rank to doctors with prior medical service. The chief medical officer on my ship while I was in actually came into the Navy as an O-6 Captain just on the strength of his 25 year civilian experience.

During World War II, it was common for civilians to be given a direct commission as an officer into the military at a rank based on their civilian experience. Granted, that's not a normal example, but many things are possible if there is a sufficient emergency.
 
I have doubts as to whether an antimatter reactor powering a warp drive would have much in common with internal combustion or even fission reactor power plants.
You should keep in mind that it isn't a real starship, and that you (nor I) have any clue as to what an antimatter reactor powering a warp drive would look like at all. :)

Actually we do have an idea what the equipment used to manufacture and store antimatter looks like today.
 
I have doubts as to whether an antimatter reactor powering a warp drive would have much in common with internal combustion or even fission reactor power plants.
You should keep in mind that it isn't a real starship, and that you (nor I) have any clue as to what an antimatter reactor powering a warp drive would look like at all. :)

Actually we do have an idea what the equipment used to manufacture and store antimatter looks like today.

This equipment would have LESS to do with it's 23rd Century counterparts than ENIAC does with a Nintendo Wii.
 
I really started to like the look of engineering after my second viewing.

Upon my first viewing I thought engineering looked like a giant space beer distillery. Not that that would be a bad thing... crew needs something to drink after all!


Yancy
 
I really started to like the look of engineering after my second viewing.

Upon my first viewing I thought engineering looked like a giant space beer distillery. Not that that would be a bad thing... crew needs something to drink after all!


Yancy

Beer days at sea, never had one, but what a trip that would be. :techman:
 
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