As someone who served aboard a real naval vessel...

[Peter the Younger]

The tanks and tubes don't bother me in the least, I just wish we could have seen something that indicated the structure of the hull, maybe curved walls or something. Something that would have said, "No, this is not a big concrete box somewhere on Earth."

 

[Chaos Descending]

I really started to like the look of engineering after my second viewing.

Upon my first viewing I thought engineering looked like a giant space beer distillery. Not that that would be a bad thing... crew needs something to drink after all!


Yancy

Beer days at sea, never had one, but what a trip that would be.

I had one beer day at sea. It's lame. You only get two beers, and they open them both when they give them to you so you don't hoard one for later. And, to make it worse, there is ABSOLUTELY NO GIVING YOUR BEER TO SOMEONE ELSE. Anyone caught having THREE BEERS is FUCKED.

 

[AdmiralSteven]

I really started to like the look of engineering after my second viewing.

Upon my first viewing I thought engineering looked like a giant space beer distillery. Not that that would be a bad thing... crew needs something to drink after all!


Yancy

Beer days at sea, never had one, but what a trip that would be.

I had one beer day at sea. It's lame. You only get two beers, and they open them both when they give them to you so you don't hoard one for later. And, to make it worse, there is ABSOLUTELY NO GIVING YOUR BEER TO SOMEONE ELSE. Anyone caught having THREE BEERS is FUCKED.

They open them for you? And no giving them away huh? Wow, that sucks. Still, to say you've had a beer while on board a Navy ship out to see would be kind of cool...I guess.

 

[Chaos Descending]

Beer days at sea, never had one, but what a trip that would be.

I had one beer day at sea. It's lame. You only get two beers, and they open them both when they give them to you so you don't hoard one for later. And, to make it worse, there is ABSOLUTELY NO GIVING YOUR BEER TO SOMEONE ELSE. Anyone caught having THREE BEERS is FUCKED.

They open them for you? And no giving them away huh? Wow, that sucks. Still, to say you've had a beer while on board a Navy ship out to see would be kind of cool...I guess.

Yeah, I suppose it's cool, in a way, but the Brits get beer every single day, so that lessens the "cool" factor somewhat.

But, sure, yeah we had a "steel beach picnic" on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier and got to drink beer. I suppose that is in fact cool.

 

[John Picard]

I really started to like the look of engineering after my second viewing.

Upon my first viewing I thought engineering looked like a giant space beer distillery. Not that that would be a bad thing... crew needs something to drink after all!


Yancy

Beer days at sea, never had one, but what a trip that would be.

I had one beer day at sea. It's lame. You only get two beers, and they open them both when they give them to you so you don't hoard one for later. And, to make it worse, there is ABSOLUTELY NO GIVING YOUR BEER TO SOMEONE ELSE. Anyone caught having THREE BEERS is FUCKED.

Not only that, all they have is Bud, Bud Lite, and Coors Lite. I gave my beers away. They go from cold to 90º in about 60 seconds when you're anchored in the Indian Ocean.

 

[AdmiralSteven]

I had one beer day at sea. It's lame. You only get two beers, and they open them both when they give them to you so you don't hoard one for later. And, to make it worse, there is ABSOLUTELY NO GIVING YOUR BEER TO SOMEONE ELSE. Anyone caught having THREE BEERS is FUCKED.

They open them for you? And no giving them away huh? Wow, that sucks. Still, to say you've had a beer while on board a Navy ship out to see would be kind of cool...I guess.

Yeah, I suppose it's cool, in a way, but the Brits get beer every single day, so that lessens the "cool" factor somewhat.

But, sure, yeah we had a "steel beach picnic" on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier and got to drink beer. I suppose that is in fact cool.

We had a couple of steel beach picnics on my ship as well, except they didn't include beer.

Beer days at sea, never had one, but what a trip that would be.

I had one beer day at sea. It's lame. You only get two beers, and they open them both when they give them to you so you don't hoard one for later. And, to make it worse, there is ABSOLUTELY NO GIVING YOUR BEER TO SOMEONE ELSE. Anyone caught having THREE BEERS is FUCKED.

Not only that, all they have is Bud, Bud Lite, and Coors Lite. I gave my beers away. They go from cold to 90º in about 60 seconds when you're anchored in the Indian Ocean.

That or the Persian Gulf. I remember a number of my Middle Eastern Coke's (differnet taste from our Cokes) going warn pretty fast.

 

[John Picard]

I had one beer day at sea. It's lame. You only get two beers, and they open them both when they give them to you so you don't hoard one for later. And, to make it worse, there is ABSOLUTELY NO GIVING YOUR BEER TO SOMEONE ELSE. Anyone caught having THREE BEERS is FUCKED.

Not only that, all they have is Bud, Bud Lite, and Coors Lite. I gave my beers away. They go from cold to 90º in about 60 seconds when you're anchored in the Indian Ocean.

That or the Persian Gulf. I remember a number of my Middle Eastern Coke's (different taste from our Cokes) going warn pretty fast.

Don't you mean, "Tan"?

 

[AdmiralSteven]

Not only that, all they have is Bud, Bud Lite, and Coors Lite. I gave my beers away. They go from cold to 90º in about 60 seconds when you're anchored in the Indian Ocean.

That or the Persian Gulf. I remember a number of my Middle Eastern Coke's (different taste from our Cokes) going warn pretty fast.

Don't you mean, "Tan"?

That too. I was dark for a white boy when I was in the Persian Gulf in the early 90's.

 

[blockaderunner]

Yep, the only "insta-rank" that makes ANY kind of sense is McCoy as an automatic LCDR since the real world's navies also have no problem giving advanced rank to doctors with prior medical service. The chief medical officer on my ship while I was in actually came into the Navy as an O-6 Captain just on the strength of his 25 year civilian experience.

During World War II, it was common for civilians to be given a direct commission as an officer into the military at a rank based on their civilian experience. Granted, that's not a normal example, but many things are possible if there is a sufficient emergency.

And a planet being sucked in an artificial black hole to me is the definition of a sufficient emergency!

 

[blockaderunner]

For a modern Navy, absolutely not. Not in any way shape or form would that be plausible.

However, this is Starfleet, not the U.S. Navy.

Also, battlefield promotions aren't out of the ordinary. Let's face it, those who aren't privy to the time travel nuances will think that it was the Romulans from their era who destroyed Vulcan so there will be demands of retaliation on the part of Starfleet and the Federation.

Looks like we might get that Romulan War we've been jonesing for.

Battlefield promotions are one thing, but to go from cadet to first officer in one promotion? Bit of a stretch for me. I'm not kept awake by it, but it made me go, hmmm.

Better to do that than to sit through the next two or three sequels of Kirk being Pike's #1 until he gets promoted properly.

 

[section9]

Still, can you imagine what an emergency as faced in the film would be like for a real Starship crew?

In the real world, for every James T. Kirk, there are a thousand Captain Dunsels. Imagine, a regular starship crew full of Senior Petty Officers and Enlisted having to deal with a crush of Midshipmen who have no frakking idea what is going on and really won't have any idea what is going on until they have learned to run a Division.

Which takes, what, several years to actually master?

Just like in the U.S. Navy.

 

[Chess Piece Face]

I don't know jack shit about the navy but I liked Engineering.

 

[section9]

By the way, although I have never even been to Annapolis, I strongly suspect that if Midshipman Kirk had ever tried to fix a simulation at that institution, he would have been brought before an Honor Court and summarily dismissed. No credit for "original thinking".

 

[fresh]

For a modern Navy, absolutely not. Not in any way shape or form would that be plausible.

However, this is Starfleet, not the U.S. Navy.

Also, battlefield promotions aren't out of the ordinary. Let's face it, those who aren't privy to the time travel nuances will think that it was the Romulans from their era who destroyed Vulcan so there will be demands of retaliation on the part of Starfleet and the Federation.

Looks like we might get that Romulan War we've been jonesing for.

Battlefield promotions are one thing, but to go from cadet to first officer in one promotion? Bit of a stretch for me. I'm not kept awake by it, but it made me go, hmmm.

but, but, he's the first man to ever beat the Kobayashi Maru ... doesn't that count?

 

[OneBuckFilms]

A couple of things I noticed about Engineering for the Enterprise:

- The lighting and Colored pipes are very reminiscent of TOS.
- The pipes, girders etc. seem fitting, since Engineers need direct access to the components they are servicing.
- The fact that we don't see a Warp Core, ala TNG onwards, is in keeping with TOS, where no Warp Core is visible.
- The ejecting of the multiple Warp Cores (Called the "Warp Core" in dialogue) may actually explain why this is the case: The TOS/New Enterprise may have had an array of smaller reactors, which would provide some redundancy, and allow lower warp speeds while some of the Cores are taken offline for maintenance.
- Water pipes make sense, since water reclamation/recycling, life support etc., would require a central processing point: Engineering.
- The location also helps to convey the size and complexity of a Federation Starship.

Based on all these factors, I'm one of those who LIKES the Engineering section this way.

 

[OneBuckFilms]

Also, battlefield promotions aren't out of the ordinary. Let's face it, those who aren't privy to the time travel nuances will think that it was the Romulans from their era who destroyed Vulcan so there will be demands of retaliation on the part of Starfleet and the Federation.

Looks like we might get that Romulan War we've been jonesing for.

Battlefield promotions are one thing, but to go from cadet to first officer in one promotion? Bit of a stretch for me. I'm not kept awake by it, but it made me go, hmmm.

but, but, he's the first man to ever beat the Kobayashi Maru ... doesn't that count?

It certainly helps to know the Admiral who's assigning you to First Officer, then promotes you when he moves to the Admiralty.

 

[blockaderunner]

A couple of things I noticed about Engineering for the Enterprise:

-
- The ejecting of the multiple Warp Cores (Called the "Warp Core" in dialogue) may actually explain why this is the case: The TOS/New Enterprise may have had an array of smaller reactors, which would provide some redundancy, and allow lower warp speeds while some of the Cores are taken offline for maintenance.
-

I've noticed that too and that was pleasant surprise. It's like commercial airliner with four engines. One goes down, you have the other three to back it up. I would imagine that the Enterprise still had at least one warp core to spare so that could get outa there.

 

[AdmiralSteven]

Also, battlefield promotions aren't out of the ordinary. Let's face it, those who aren't privy to the time travel nuances will think that it was the Romulans from their era who destroyed Vulcan so there will be demands of retaliation on the part of Starfleet and the Federation.

Looks like we might get that Romulan War we've been jonesing for.

Battlefield promotions are one thing, but to go from cadet to first officer in one promotion? Bit of a stretch for me. I'm not kept awake by it, but it made me go, hmmm.

Better to do that than to sit through the next two or three sequels of Kirk being Pike's #1 until he gets promoted properly.

That's true.

 

[Cakes488]

My father was also in the Navy and he was an engineer in the service and in civilian life. I used to go with him to work in the boiler room and I think they did a pretty good job of it...is it perfect..no...but it's the best one I've seen so far. It really did remind me of the boiler room...except you'd be sweatin your ass off in a real one, and it's really friggin loud and of course...dirty...but I'm pleased with it!

I too agree that it is ridiculous that Kirk was promoted in that fashion...I'd rather he been promoted in the time between this movie and the sequel.....and we can join the captain "already in progess"... I think that would of been a fabulous idea and plausable.