As of Right Now Star Trek is the number one movie for 2009!
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Since tonight is the last digital projection movie until my local IMAX (hopefully) gets the movie, I'll go for my fourth time. Son has declined to go for a fourth viewing though... 
There is general agreement in the real world about the excellent quality of the movie; there is over-represented disagreement here on the board. People know which carries more weight.Well come on folks. We already know we have the Number One movie of the year in terms of quality. No question. So does it matter than we have the Number One money-making movie? Umm... Hell yeah!
No we don't. That's your opinion, not an objective fact. There is disagreement about that on these boards, hell in every thread about the quality of the movie.
Last time I checked with the real world, popular opinion still doesn't magically transform subjective opinion into objective fact.
go Jeri!
Go Jeri and indranee! What was that classic line from DS9's Take Me Out To The Holosuite? I raise my glass to overgeeked and say, "To Manufactured Triumph!"
It is objective fact that disagreement is overepresented on this board in comparison to the real world. And it is objective fact that people know which carries more weight.
Lightinspire
Lieutenant Commander
Actually, the headline said that Star Trek XI is on it's way to being number 1. Monsters VS Aliens is still number one according to Paramount but it has been running for 9 weeks...Paramount would be stupid to tamper with what works and risk another losing quarter.
What is objective fact is that this board is more filled with long time Trek fans than the people from the "real world." Simply look at the length of membership, and post count of some here.
Agreed, there are more people who find things to dislike about the film here than in the "real world."
What that tells us is that more long time Trek fans find things to dislike in the movie than "normal people" from the "real world." Last time I checked, Trek fans, and those on the internet were also included in this "real world" thing you're talking about.
And that last line of yours. lol. It may be an objective fact that you give more weight to certain opinions, but to assume that others agree is presumptuous.
What is objective fact even on this board is that only 9.1% of poll respondents think the movie is below average or poor, while 83.4% rate it above average or excellent, and 7.4% rate it average. So, considering the comparative numbers of posts by those who dislike the movie to the positive posts, it is very reasonable to call it objective fact that on this board, those who dislike the movie are overrepresented by the volume of their messages.
Interestingly enough, these percentages are very close to the Rotten Tomato rating of 95% positive reviews (out of 261 reviews) - which seems to be representative of the general public's opinion.
Interestingly enough, these percentages are very close to the Rotten Tomato rating of 95% positive reviews (out of 261 reviews) - which seems to be representative of the general public's opinion.
Overgeeked, I've been at the TrekBBS eight years. I started watching TOS on NBC in 1966. Being a Trek fan only draws people here; it doesn't make them anything else. It doesn't follow that they have more complaints because they're better.
People know the real world carries more weight. They know the BBS carries weight in specific; i.e., not in general. To assert it's applicable in general is the presumption.
People know the real world carries more weight. They know the BBS carries weight in specific; i.e., not in general. To assert it's applicable in general is the presumption.
We only get one vote. We can post until our fingers bleed.
You're not that familiar with formal logic. Point taken.
Number 1 Movie of 2009...!
what you are using isn't logic
We only get one vote. We can post until our fingers bleed.
You're not that familiar with formal logic. Point taken.
The poster is not the topic; you make no point.
subjective opinion = yours
objective fact = Star Trek is a bonafide hit in the real world, RT, and here.
now you have my permission to twist that any which way
Yeah, it is an objective fact that the movie made lots of money and is popular with lots of people, who subjectively feel that it is a good or even great movie.
We only get one vote. We can post until our fingers bleed.
You're not that familiar with formal logic. Point taken.
OK, so I'm confused here - is Overgeeked actually agreeing that the small percentage who find the movie is of poor quality ARE flooding the threads with negative posts, thus causing that negative opinion to be overrepresented?????? And thus negating his/her original position????? And I am totally lost on the answer to Jeri.
Don't give them ANY ideas!With Star Trek and Transformers lighting up the box office, I wonder if anyone at Paramount is thinking... crossover?
*grrrr*
Spock Prime
Optimus Prime
That simple!
And don't forget - back in the day, Nimoy was the voice for Galvatron.
subjective opinion = yours
objective fact = Star Trek is a bonafide hit in the real world, RT, and here.
now you have my permission to twist that any which way
Everyones opinion is subjective. It's a personal opinion, mine, yours, everyones.
Numbers and figures are facts, yes. It's made a lot of money at the box office, yes. All facts.
Whether the movie's "good", "great", "bad", or "horrible" are all subjective opinions.
The film has plot holes, it's a fact. Whether we ignore them and enjoy the ride is a personal choice.
I don't care that people disagree. We're all entitled to our opinions.
The Bible has plot holes. So does "Casablanca." Finding "plot holes" in popular stories is like finding lint in someone's pockets...so?
To assert that such things exist is to observe a commonplace, and that's a long, long way from demonstrating that a reasonable person should be greatly concerned by them in evaluating a work of fiction.
So far your assertions haven't met the "reasonable person" standard.
BTW, by any understanding of formal logic your sig is literally nonsense and without value in a discussion.
This is a Trek BBS. Trek fans are notorious nit-pickers.
Hi.
Sorry, didn't realize that because I'm into logic that everything I ever post and my sig needed to conform to logic.
What was that saying... "Logic is the beginning of wisdom. Not the end."
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