Areas on ships we never got to see

[JirinPanthosa]

In Encounter At Farpoint they make reference to a zero gravity gym which we never see.

And I'm not sure how a zero gravity gym would work anyway. You wouldn't get any exercise because you wouldn't be pushing against any resistance. For recreation, it would be very dangerous especially for kids, a lot of banged heads. The only possible use I can see for a zero gravity gym is low impact recovery for distance runners, where it would be an improvement over those pricey underwater treadmills they use today.

Though I imagine athletes in the 24th century might have greater use for increased gravity training than reduced gravity training, the same way they do high altitude training today.

 

[Melakon]

And I'm not sure how a zero gravity gym would work anyway. You wouldn't get any exercise because you wouldn't be pushing against any resistance.

I don't know diddly about science, and I know diddly squat about physical education. But all you have to do is look at life aboard the international space station, where they're doing exercises all the time in zero gravity.

 

[Cyke101]

The torpedo room would have been nice too.

I've always wanted to see a torpedo go from casket to fireball in slow-mo, which would probably mean watching it launch from inside the torpedo bay through the firing tube.

Or, you know, some people like to eat in a social environment at least part of the time. And breaking bread together builds crew unity - at least it works that way for humans.

Yep, and it works. Considering the size and crew compliment of the E-D, I would not be surprised if the designs showed multiple mess halls, frankly, almost like a school or in one of those big corporate buildings downtown. After all, as the old workplace adage goes, "Never eat lunch alone."

 

[USS Triumphant]

I don't know diddly about science, and I know diddly squat about physical education. But all you have to do is look at life aboard the international space station, where they're doing exercises all the time in zero gravity.

The ISS isn't in *zero* gravity. There is still about 90% of the same gravitational pull from the Earth that you experience on the surface here, it's just that the station is also "falling" around the Earth due to that pull, and so for many purposes the crew is at an *apparent* zero g for the same reason that you feel lighter when in an elevator moving downward quickly.

Point being, I think there are ways that astronauts/cosmonauts/etc aboard the ISS can use the gravitational field they are very much in to do useful exercise, whereas I'm with JirinPanthosa regarding the utility of an actual zero gee gym.

Unless... maybe it is for doing EVA practice without having to actually go EVA?

 

[Gotham Central]

but a room dedicated to meals seemed unnecessary on a ship where crew quarters have replicators

Great if you want to eat by yourself.

You do not need a mess hall for that. That's why I said a lounge is reasonable or open common areas, but a large mess hall seems unnecessary. Ten Forward makes sense or the Rec Rooms on TOS. Those were not mess halls, but multi purpose rooms where folks could eat and socialize.

 

[T'Girl]

And I'm not sure how a zero gravity gym would work anyway. You wouldn't get any exercise because you wouldn't be pushing against any resistance.

Just being in one, and not doing execise, would be a form of exercise.

Consider, if you're standing with your arms above you head and want you arms down at your sides you simply relax you shoulder muscles and gravity pulls your arms down.

In zero gee, you would have to use muscle to pull your arms to you waist. Dancing in zero gee would be a great workout.

Astronaut who spend time in "free fall" or zero gee end up with great tummy muscles.

 

[Xerxes1979]

• Deflector control on ships other than the Enterprise-B
• Areas of the hull between bulkheads but not part of the Jeffries tube system.
• Impulse engine unit or hull section. Several stories high on many ships we never see these ever.
• The strange blue grid area behind the main shuttle bay on the Enterprise-D.
• The mysterious cargo area on the underside of Excelsiors.

 

[ALF]

I loved how a deleted scene in TNG's The Bonding allowed us to see another type of schoolroom. Too bad the video quality was so bad but - I'm interested in the areas that were designed, created, filmed in and then scrapped.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

And I'm not sure how a zero gravity gym would work anyway. You wouldn't get any exercise because you wouldn't be pushing against any resistance.

I don't know diddly about science, and I know diddly squat about physical education. But all you have to do is look at life aboard the international space station, where they're doing exercises all the time in zero gravity.

In the ISS they do exercises in 0G because it's their only option, and if they don't their muscles will atrophy from being in 0G.

That does not mean there are exercises you can do in 0G that are superior to exercises you can do with the benefit of gravity.

 

[FormerLurker]

The zero-g gym is probably where the Parrisses(sp?) Squares team practices.

 

[Captain Rob]

The Flag Tactical Control Center. A must aboard a flagship. Is where the task force comander would 'fight the fleet' from. Would be like stellar cartography on steroids. And similar to the CIC from BSG but no paper maps. Should be buried deep in the ship near the emergency bridge.

 

[Greg Cox]

D had a Swimming Pool...that would have been cool...

Heck, Kirk's Enterprise supposedly had a swimming pool, according to various blueprints and reference books. I actually set a scene there in my most recent TOS novel.

And, of course, we never got to see the bowling alley that Riley mentioned in "The Naked Time."

 

[xvicente]

When I learned about the Aeroshuttle I started to hate the Delta Flyer. It helped I don't like Tom Paris and the shuttle was his baby.

(The Captain's yatch would be nice to see in that one or two episodes the TNG heroes traveled in a Runabout borrowed from DS9 -- instead of the runabout. And the Runabout would be better than the boxy shuttle they had. Alright, cost, I know)

Someone mentioned the Cetacaen Ops. I dont think it would be a very interesting setting. It's an aquarium inside a speceship, right? Scotty made a makeshift one 400 years before.

Meyer inveted the kitchen and it was lame. Sionce that blunder I think maybe it's better to stick to the essentials: a bridge, a turbolift, a corridor, a transpoter room, a sickbay and engineering.

 

[Greg Cox]

Meyer inveted the kitchen and it was lame. Sionce that blunder I think maybe it's better to stick to the essentials: a bridge, a turbolift, a corridor, a transporter room, a sickbay and engineering.

The kitchen never bothered me. I always assumed that it was there for recreational reasons (lots of people enjoy cooking) or for preparing gourmet meals for special occasions: diplomatic receptions, holidays, weddings, etc.

I don't think it was supposed to be providing all the food for all the food slots. But do you really want to treat the Andorian ambassador to hors d'oeuvre from a food processor?

 

[xvicente]

> I don't think it was supposed to be providing all the food for all the food slots. But do you really want to treat the Andorian ambassador to hors d'oeuvre from a food processor?

You got a point.

Also, almost but not entirely off-topic (only because they made dinner for an alien ambassador in thet kitchen in its movie), last time I bought fresh squid, having recently browsed Shatner's Movie Memories and the chapter about the dining scene, I almost threw blue coloring in it, just for the kicks.... almost. Maybe I will.

 

[Greg Cox]

> I don't think it was supposed to be providing all the food for all the food slots. But do you really want to treat the Andorian ambassador to hors d'oeuvre from a food processor?

You got a point.

Also, almost but not entirely off-topic (only because they made dinner for an alien ambassador in thet kitchen in its movie), last time I bought fresh squid, having recently browsed Shatner's Movie Memories and the chapter about the dining scene, I almost threw blue coloring in it, just for the kicks.... almost. Maybe I will.

Just don't serve Romulan brandy at diplomatic functions.

 

[T'Girl]

Someone mentioned the Cetacaen Ops. I dont think it would be a very interesting setting. It's an aquarium inside a speceship, right? Scotty made a makeshift one 400 years before.

My take on cetacean operations is that it's where member of the Enterprise crew who are sapient marine mammals (probably also those with gills) perform their duty shifts.

I don't think it's just an aquarium to display fish for amusement.

 

[The Wormhole]

When I learned about the Aeroshuttle I started to hate the Delta Flyer.

Yeah, that bothered me so much that they created the new Delta Flyer instead of using the Aeroshuttle. If they went with the Aeroshuttle, they would have saved money on sets, since they could have used the runabout interiors for it instead of building new sets. True they'd have to share the set with DS9, but DS9 didn't use runabouts in every episode and was in its final season anyway so an arrangement would have been workable

(The Captain's yatch would be nice to see in that one or two episodes the TNG heroes traveled in a Runabout borrowed from DS9 -- instead of the runabout. And the Runabout would be better than the boxy shuttle they had. Alright, cost, I know)

Using the runabout on TNG was meant to be a way of helping DS9 save money by using TNG's budget to create a set for the runabout's aft cabin. Ironically, the aft cabin was never seen on DS9.

 

[Captain Rob]

If I was a sentient dolphin. I wouldn't want to serve on a starship and be cooped up in such a small area. I'd want to be able to wander the ship like the Xindi-Aquatics do.
What or who is the Captain's yatch? Is it that chick from the Mirror Universe?

 

[Robert Comsol]

IIRC, a dolphin requires the opportunity to swim at least 100 miles a day, everything else qualifies as claustrophobic and animal cruelty.

Theoretically those new pools with a jetstream engine (essentially a water treadmill) could solve the problem and would also make the need of any space consuming (larger) swimming pool obsolete (heck, it's a starship, not a hotel ).

Using the runabout on TNG was meant to be a way of helping DS9 save money by using TNG's budget to create a set for the runabout's aft cabin. Ironically, the aft cabin was never seen on DS9.

I never understood this. The runabout was a genuine DS9 design, so there should have been at least a couple of episodes featuring the aft cabin.

Bob