maybe they will release a special set of the entire series down the line like that new tng complete set that came out last year
Are the non cgi sets going out of print?
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Perhaps the Blu-Ray release which we all know is coming, will include both.
On one side could be the Blu-Ray version, which I'm fairly sure will be only the remastered.
The other side, in standard definition, could have both original and remastered.
Assuming it's even possible to have one side be Blu-Ray and the other side standard def.
On one side could be the Blu-Ray version, which I'm fairly sure will be only the remastered.
The other side, in standard definition, could have both original and remastered.
Assuming it's even possible to have one side be Blu-Ray and the other side standard def.
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it would be nice to have an option on the DVD for both the old, and the new CGI effects.
it would be nice to have an option on the DVD for both the old, and the new CGI effects.
Blu-Ray is 50 GB as opposed to HD-DVD which was 30 GB; so there is no reason why both versions couldn't fit on the same side. Unless you mean that you want to be able to play it in a DVD player but I don't think I've ever heard of Blu-Ray and DVD on opposite sides of the same disc.
Admiral Babaganoosh,
My comment was about morals. Your reply that its about "business" does not refute my statement. Morals and ethics can be applied to business, although obviously they are frequently not, as our current economic crisis bears out.
Film and VHS "capture" images in different ways. DVD does not "capture" images. DVD is computer-rendered, recreated facsimile. That was my only point.
I am "over" the demise of VHS. I own all the DVD sets. I was only making an observation, about the differences between film, VHS, and DVD, given that this thread was about the remastered series with new CGI images and the merits and availability of the old versions. I was not "propounding" anything.
I don't understand your anger, or resort to vulgar language and hostile disparagement, in conversation with an apparent newcomer (yes, I am a Trek BBS "cadet" at the moment, as compared to your position in the admiralty, as you point out below), or with anyone. My comments were and are valid, open to either discussion or dismissal, if they bore you (admittedly I am prone to uttering boring comments), and they stand on their own as factual remarks.
EEE, thank you for the interesting responses. I agree with your differentiation between the real, perfect, and Star Trek universes, the latter being a visionary blend of the two
My comment was about morals. Your reply that its about "business" does not refute my statement. Morals and ethics can be applied to business, although obviously they are frequently not, as our current economic crisis bears out.
Film and VHS "capture" images in different ways. DVD does not "capture" images. DVD is computer-rendered, recreated facsimile. That was my only point.
I am "over" the demise of VHS. I own all the DVD sets. I was only making an observation, about the differences between film, VHS, and DVD, given that this thread was about the remastered series with new CGI images and the merits and availability of the old versions. I was not "propounding" anything.
I don't understand your anger, or resort to vulgar language and hostile disparagement, in conversation with an apparent newcomer (yes, I am a Trek BBS "cadet" at the moment, as compared to your position in the admiralty, as you point out below), or with anyone. My comments were and are valid, open to either discussion or dismissal, if they bore you (admittedly I am prone to uttering boring comments), and they stand on their own as factual remarks.
EEE, thank you for the interesting responses. I agree with your differentiation between the real, perfect, and Star Trek universes, the latter being a visionary blend of the two
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The point of this whole thread is that we soon WON'T be able to get original Trek on DVD; they're apparently being discontinued. Sure, we'll probably be able to find used copies on ebay etc. but it won't be available as a current product in retail establishments.
Doug
Not true... The Shadow knows what evil lurks in the hearts of Paramount Marketing Executives! *grin*
I'm curious... other than number of episodes and very probably (video) "extras," is there any notable differences in quality between the your dvds and the 4 per dvd of the season sets? Any other differences? (well, besides not needing as much shelf space *grin*)
I wouldn't know. In my case, I had paid once for the damned things and I wasn't forking over more money for the same stuff, even if it takes up less room.
Besides, I have them in a CD album.
I'm still smarting over having bought TNG/DS9/VOY and ENT and THEN after I'm done, Paramount drops them in price by 50%. *grr!*
Besides, I have them in a CD album.
I'm still smarting over having bought TNG/DS9/VOY and ENT and THEN after I'm done, Paramount drops them in price by 50%. *grr!*
So, do we all finally agree that TOS-R was mostly a failure and a mistake? Because I had to wait a long time for most people to admit First Contact wasn't very good.
Disney and George Lucas have invariably announced their movies being available "for the last time" but there's always a new format, and the laws of supply and demand will always inform future releases. Disney movies and Star Wars films keep popping back up.
If the old TOS has fallen "out of print", you can be assured it's not forever. CBS isn't destroying the old masters.
DVD releases are always done in promotional waves. If CBS kept all of TOS in print forever, the shops would still shunt them off the shelves and into bargain bins, to make way for new releases. And yet, if CBS relaunches TOS, in any format, they are accused of "double dipping".
There isn't any moral issue. Even Bob J came out in favor of them. Had they been able to make them look that good when originally done they would have. I think they could have done better with the Enterprise itsself, but everything else looks great. I DIDN'T know the CGI DVDs were not syndication-cut-free. If they have the cuts, then I won't be purchasing them as planned.
Supply and demand. If enough people want un-enhanced TOS, CBS will hardly refuse to release a new batch. But this stuff is done in waves. No DVD set is kept in print perpetually.
The CGI episodes are cut for syndication in their TV screenings, but each entire episode was CGIed, and the uncut eps are on the DVD sets.
OK, put yourself in the place of a DVD shop. How do you cope with shelf space if you keep in stock at least one copy of every "important" series and movie that comes along? They have to go in and out of print. CBS has never said that un-enhanced TOS would never be re-released.
Well, syndicators were telling CBS they no longer wanted to buy TOS because it no longer got a decent audience share. The ratings for CGIed TOS were higher. Without CGI, TOS was becoming extinct on TV anyway.
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