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Are talkshows really that big?

I am also from the UK and after reading all bits and pieces i watched some you tube clips.
I thought the Coco guy was funny found J Leno to be a bit weak.
But i just hated the Letterman show that guy with the sun glasses just stood there and repeated everything Letterman said does he normally do that or did i just watch a video of a bad night?

Paul Schaffer has been doing that for many, many years. I think Letterman goes there when he's just looking for someone to bounce off a little bit when he's ad-libbing. Paul does sometimes twist it a little which gets Dave going somewhere with it but he's more stoking Letterman than trying to really bring the material himself. Being the bandleader means being second banana to Dave is a secondary thing.
 
I've never watched Leno. Did he have an Ed McMahon type sidekick? I noticed that on Conan, Andy gets to sit on the panel with guests like Ed did.
 
As a Brit, I have been following with bemusement all of the recent fuss over Leno/O'Brien/Daly - Are Talk shows really still that big in the US?

The thing I find the most staggering is that you have talk-shows that start at 12.30am and even 1.15am! Who's the audience?

Part of the fuss is that the Tonight Show is not merely some talk show - it is a major, constant feature of the American television landscape and has been for decades. It has never been a show to casually reformat, reboot, or even move the time it runs. Conan O'Brian is correct. A Tonight Show run any other time than 11:30 EST is no longer the Tonight Show.

It is also the crown jewel for many professional comedians given the legacy of Johnny Carson. I still recall the big TV brawl they had over this back in the 90s. Letterman was passed over for Johnny's spot, went to CBS where he and Leno started a battle with their respective talk shows over guest stars. Seriously. The casualty of that conflict was that it killed another successful talk show, the Arsenio Hall Show.

It all sounds silly, but this is about big money and even bigger egos. And NBC and (Zucker's clownish mishandling of this whole situation) speaks volumes of the level of the baffling incompetence NBC has shown.

And I guess a couple of reasons talk shows are fairly popular is that they are cheap entertainment to put on, serve as advertisements for TV/film/actors/musicians/etc., and Americans can't ever seem to get enough of the celebrity scene.
 
I've never watched Leno. Did he have an Ed McMahon type sidekick? I noticed that on Conan, Andy gets to sit on the panel with guests like Ed did.

No. Andy was the last of the "McMahon" like sidekicks. He did that on the old Late Night until he left. When he came back for the new Tonight Show, Conan wanted him back on the couch during the interviews, but NBC told him no and that he was to stay over at that announcer podium full time. Andy's only seemed to fully move back over to the couch full time in the last two weeks.
 
I think it would be very wrong for NBC to take away The Tonight Show from Conan...Jay just needs to move on.

I use to watch Jay for the first 35 minutes then Jimmy Kimmel for 35 minutes & then Conan for an hour...it was a sweet set up. Never cared for Letterman after he went to CBS.
 
I think it would be very wrong for NBC to take away The Tonight Show from Conan...Jay just needs to move on.

I use to watch Jay for the first 35 minutes then Jimmy Kimmel for 35 minutes & then Conan for an hour...it was a sweet set up. Never cared for Letterman after he went to CBS.

I never was a letterman fan myself, as I didn't find him that funny. But he's been pretty funny dealing with the Conan/leno/NBC thing.
 
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I loved Letterman when I was a kid and then...just don't find him as funny now.

NBC is useless as a network now :lol:
 
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I loved Letterman when I was a kid and then...just don't find him as funny now.

NBC is useless as a network now :lol:

Indeed. I feel sorry for Jimmy Fallon, really. He's friends with both Leno and Conan. I think it was pretty classy the way he put it on his show the other night, the bit about marrying the great girl then meeting the in-laws and finding out they are crazy. :lol:
 
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